Leia in Episodes VIII and IX

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Post by Kylo Ren's 8-Pack on Sun 10 Apr 2016 - 12:24

- Yes,  I also feel that Leia is going to have a part to play in Kylo's redemption.
How can she not?
She is the only character thus far who has expressed the opinion that there is still 'good in him'.
Surely she will have a key role in helping Ben find his way back to the Light...or at least I would hope that would be the case.

Leia being in some type of life-threatening situation brought on by Snoke or the First Order could be used as a story telling device to convince Kylo that he has been on the 'wrong side' all this time.
A fleeting moment when his feelings for his mother clash against the inherent Dark Side programming Snoke has infected him with.
One of those 'look at yourself and see what you have done' moments.

If handled correctly, Leia could assist in helping Han succeed in 'bringing our son home'....
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Post by Darth_Awakened on Sun 10 Apr 2016 - 12:46

I do not think they cast Laura Dern as substitution. She is there probably to beef up a bit a conflict between Republic and Resistance (which was suggested but not enough clearly presented in TFA).

Concerning Leia and Kylo s redemption, she would have some important role for sure, but I just do not see her as a key figure in this process - my money is on Rey who finally brings him home.

It would be a bit weird that 30 year old son is going to saved by his mommy. Very Happy
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Post by vaderito on Sun 10 Apr 2016 - 14:42

Family can't save Kylo cause they ****ed up to begin with. But Rey is his unconditional love without any baggage so it'll be romantic love that saves him. However, scene between Kylo and Leia is a given. Whether it happens in VIII remains to be seen but I expect Kylo to come face to face with her and Luke separately or together. They are his family so they'll confront him about killing Han. There's no dramatic reason to skip that.

Leia's grave injury could get Luke out of hiding and/or prompt Kylo to do something reckless (which he does w/o prompting anyway).
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Post by IoJovi on Sun 10 Apr 2016 - 17:06

Kylo Ren tells Snoke he will not be seduced. The following scene cuts to Han and Rey on the Falcon. That tells me who will be instrumental in his redemption. We already know Han played a role when he touched his sons face and forgave him, even in death.

Han set the stage, and Rey will be the one to bring it to fruition.

I have no doubt Ren still loves his mother, but the fact is she already tried and failed by sending him to Luke.
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Post by IoJovi on Sun 10 Apr 2016 - 17:20

Don't get me wrong - one of the scenes I am so looking forward to is a reunion between Ben and Leia. He will be an emotional mess, and I can't wait.

Leia can still play a small part, but moving forward I think the majority of his redemption arc will coincide with Rey's journey.
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Post by panki on Sun 10 Apr 2016 - 18:16

I have a feeling Kylo will kill a KOR and disappear with Rey when Snoke orders him to kill her....and then Snoke will attack the resistance as revenge and Leia will be gravely injured....this might prompt Kylo to question his loyalties....or foolishly go for a fight with Snoke....

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Post by Rimfaxe96 on Mon 11 Apr 2016 - 13:27

Honestly I'm so afraid/tense about that reunion/confrontation scene. I think this would be the very first time a character who has killed one of his family returns to said family (IF he returns - I wouldn't blame him for running off Azula style at the end of the trilogy).
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Post by MeadowofAshes on Mon 11 Apr 2016 - 14:01

I can buy the coma as a device for him rethinking his priorities but ultimately it will be Rey he truly sacrifices for in Ep 9. Also looking forward to the mother-son reunion in Ep 9. You know AD can pull it off; I'm looking forward to his performance. He will probably fall to his knees and you know he'll cry like a baby when his mother forgives him.
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Post by Guest on Wed 13 Apr 2016 - 17:23

I just saw this on the Official Star Wars Twitter and it's a great write up about Leia and her force abilities http://www.starwars.com/news/strong-in-my-family-exploring-leias-unique-relationship-with-the-force?cmp=smc|431136449&linkId=23417447 it really annoys me when some people dismiss her as the lesser Skywalker because she didn't become a Jedi or take the name. She is as, if not more, important as Luke, IMO.

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Post by SoloSideCousin on Wed 13 Apr 2016 - 19:55

@IoJovi wrote:Kylo Ren tells Snoke he will not be seduced. The following scene cuts to Han and Rey on the Falcon. That tells me who will be instrumental in his redemption. We already know Han played a role when he touched his sons face and forgave him, even in death.

Han set the stage, and Rey will be the one to bring it to fruition.

I have no doubt Ren still loves his mother, but the fact is she already tried and failed by sending him to Luke.
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There was also a clip of the scene Han and Leia had about Ben in the documentary where some of their dialogue seems to have been cut ... yet they kept it for the documentary.

Leia says to Han, "You always saw him more clearly than I did."

Han answers, "I don't know what I saw."

This indicates prior attempts to understand him and Leia being unable to really get him. Now obviously, that didn't make it into the film, but to have it in the documentary during the whole portion that goes into how the family dropped the ball makes me go with @vaderito on this one. They need an outsider, with no baggage, to save Kylo.
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Re: Leia in Episodes VIII and IX

Post by SoloSideCousin on Wed 13 Apr 2016 - 21:29

@Force22 wrote:
@SoloSideCousin wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:Kylo Ren tells Snoke he will not be seduced. The following scene cuts to Han and Rey on the Falcon. That tells me who will be instrumental in his redemption. We already know Han played a role when he touched his sons face and forgave him, even in death.

Han set the stage, and Rey will be the one to bring it to fruition.

I have no doubt Ren still loves his mother, but the fact is she already tried and failed by sending him to Luke.
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There was also a clip of the scene Han and Leia had about Ben in the documentary where some of their dialogue seems to have been cut ... yet they kept it for the documentary.

Leia says to Han, "You always saw him more clearly than I did."

Han answers, "I don't know what I saw."

This indicates prior attempts to understand him and Leia being unable to really get him. Now obviously, that didn't make it into the film, but to have it in the documentary during the whole portion that goes into how the family dropped the ball makes me go with @vaderito on this one. They need an outsider, with no baggage, to save Kylo.
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I thik the fact that she still sees good in him is important, and might be an important factor.
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Absolutely! No question about that at all! She just needs help.
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