Star Wars Movie Posters- Magic, Myth and Alchemy

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Post by Maria Antonietta on Mon 18 Apr - 21:33

That's so cool! Wish I was so intelligent
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Post by Darth Rowan on Wed 20 Apr - 13:42

@panki, I love this analysis, I remember it from before. I love your thoughts on Kylo and Rey. Their positioning of facing the same direction and having their weapons aligned is very bold and powerful symbolism, imo.

What you have to say about Padme's character arc and her styling/positioning in the various posters reminded me about the question of Rey's styling and hair in the upcoming episode. Will be interesting if she wears it loose on the poster FOR VIII. ^.^

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Post by panki on Wed 20 Apr - 22:25

@Darth Rowan wrote:
What you have to say about Padme's character arc and her styling/positioning in the various posters reminded me about the question of Rey's styling and hair in the upcoming episode. Will be interesting if she wears it loose on the poster FOR VIII. ^.^
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I'm hoping Rey wears her hair loose or at least sports a grown up hairstyle in Episode VIII....Maybe the loose hair is part of her descent into the dark side....letting go of innocence? Shocked

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Post by spacebaby45678 on Thu 28 Apr - 11:22

Panki,

I love your analysis, I think it is right on. Alchemy in many ways coincide with astrotheology ( the basis of most ancient myths) These cycles are based on the cycle of the sun during the  12 months of the  year, also the Hero's journey actually mirrors it. Since we are starting this portion of the Saga with the Sun/Son in the underworld like the night, the moon/feminine energy reflects the sun's light and guides our way during the darkness. So in TFA Rey begins to reflect Ren's force powers or " force bond" .  


I liked this guys astrotheological breakdown of the saga based on this cycle very much. 





Diagram Explanation


Essentially, the base of 12 is applied to the months of a year with significance drawn to the four cardinal points of seasonal change. And metonymically, this division of four can be applied to a cycle of a day, more or less. Of course, using a day as a frame, the moon has to represent the rebirth of the sun at the winter solstice (the bottom one). Also, the daily hours must be seen as a base of 12 rather than 24. I understand the diagram would have been simpler if only references to a yearly cycle were used, but I wished to draw attention to daily analogy as well.

Episodes I-III


From the diagram above, it may be seen that episode one began while still day but in the descent of the sun quadrant or afternoon. The Jedi order had reached its zenith with Anakin, the chosen one, at the solstice and  transitioned through war with the coming darkness of evening until the ultimate betrayal of the Jedi order at the Autumn equinox (the one on the right). This quadrant can also be understood as the deterioration of the suns glory during the latter half of the Summer until Autumn.

Episodes IV-VI


Due to the betrayal, the Jedi are in the darkest quadrant in episodes four to six. Anakin dies and is redeemed or 'resurrected' as good at the winter solstice (the one at the bottom) and the Jedi order is reborn. This quadrant may also be understood as the seasonal transition of Autumn to Winter, the ultimate bleakness.

Episodes VII-IX?


Using this framework, set in the moonlit quadrant, one could deduce that episodes seven to nine, symbolised by the sun being reborn at the Winter solstice, may be youth centric. And the Moon, usually the female counterpart to the Sun, is also predominant here, so one could expect a female to be the important character to this trilogy. Also, applying astrology, Saturn, 'the great opposer',  is exalted in this quadrant, which may be the theme of these episodes. And this quadrant, although moonlit, is still dark overall. I.e. there are still antagonists to the Jedi order. Another way to see this quadrant is the transition from Winter to the Spring equinox - a rejuvenation.


Future Star Wars Movies


As for the Ascending Sun quadrant sequels (or prequels), there must be a triumph (conquering) at the Spring equinox (the one on the left) by the sun, reinstating light in the universe. I.e. the Jedi order will establish and increase control in these episodes. But i don't see how a story line without strong antagonism or looming defeat will hold interest. This is probably why there is conjecture about leaving the saga at nine episodes and making spin-offs instead.

Conclusion


So overall, astrology and astro-theology may seem new-age bunk to skeptics, but you can see there is a clear correlation between this framework and the actual story progression, so far. And according to where the saga left off and the logical progression of a cycle, it seems very likely that the story will follow the framework in future episodes.

I was going to finish off with the Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Ep. VII) wrap party music: 'Superstition' by Stevie Wonder, but all clips seem to have been deleted from the internet. Strange.




Also interesting how EP 7 - 9 are in the Grey portion of the cycle on the diagram, and the TFA book begins with this quote. 


"First comes the day
Then comes the night.
After the darkness
Shines through the light.
The difference, they say,
Is only made right
By the resolving of gray
Through refined Jedi sight."
―Journal of the Whills, 7:477[src]



But notice also how the Hero's Journey is also a mirror of the 12 month cycle of the sun, and Ren's story/narrative in TFA  also begins in the underworld. Ren is past the first threshold in the underworld abyss





Love the alchemical analysis of the Hanged man in ESB... Not only allusions to odin but the hanged man in Tarot, and the mid point of the saga when there is a reversal, Luke's worldview is turned upside down by finding out that Darth Vadar is his father.  



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Post by Darth Dementor on Sat 30 Apr - 17:45

Great opening to the thread. High quality!

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Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Sat 30 Apr - 17:58

Love this though:



THE SUNLIGHT IT CONTAINS BURSTS FORTH, and as we get further and further distance from what was Starkiller Base, we witness the REBIRTH OF A SUN. Light restored to a corner of the galaxy.
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