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Post by IoJovi on Wed 2 Aug - 1:49

@snufkin wrote:@IoJovi - it's a dumb benchmark, but the fact that this guy who I follow and sometimes chat with on Twitter who's in the UK and massive film snob follows this guy, that's a huge positive in my book. Like I trust this guy's judgement, especially in talking about the film history and business for the UK. Also a huge positive is that he's the writer for the BBC's adaption of His Dark Materials, like anybody who's read those books has already seen the thematic parallels with TFA. Especially with Rey and the themes they're hinting at in the Force plot. If he can write Lyra Belacqua, then he can handle Rey. The wildcard does remain Trevorrow in not f**king it up. Although from all the backlash/fall out that Book of Henry unleashed, it sounds like the job will basically be mapped out by producers and the different area specialists. Like he just has to work with the actors. So the risk factor is way less.
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That is fantastic news, and I'm so glad to hear it!! I'm intrigued about His Dark Materials - I'll have to read up on it. I've read from multiple sources that Colin is great at getting highly emotional performance needed out of the actors, so if that's still his role, I'm fine with it.

Can't wait to hear more!
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Post by Helix on Wed 2 Aug - 1:50

What I gather from Twitter panic: his TV work: Good. HP and the Cursed Child: Awful. So mostly good with one stinker?
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Wed 2 Aug - 1:56

@Helix wrote:What I gather from Twitter panic: his TV work: Good. HP and the Cursed Child: Awful. So mostly good with one stinker?
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I'm seeing the same twitter panic as you. I know that a lot of people here are fans of His Dark Materials, although I haven't read those books myself.
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Re: Colin Trevorrow for Episode IX

Post by snufkin on Wed 2 Aug - 1:57

Oh duh, he wrote the adaption of Woyzeck that John Boyega just appeared in, so there's your connection. But the His Dark Materials adaption, unless it's awful that's more encouraging than entrusting it to Trevorrow.
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Post by ZioRen on Wed 2 Aug - 2:00

I'm smelling a pushback on IX's release date.
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Post by Guest on Wed 2 Aug - 2:01

@Helix wrote:What I gather from Twitter panic: his TV work: Good. HP and the Cursed Child: Awful. So mostly good with one stinker?
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I don't know enough about Harry Potter and The Cursed Child to know if it's a stinker. It was written in collaboration with J.K. Rowling and another guy besides Jack Thorne, so maybe he can't be blamed entirely for that one, if it is a bad story. The play seems to be massively popular, though, so it can't be that awful. I will have to look at what else he's written for TV as I've probably unwittingly watched something of his.

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Post by Helix on Wed 2 Aug - 2:02

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@Helix wrote:What I gather from Twitter panic: his TV work: Good. HP and the Cursed Child: Awful. So mostly good with one stinker?
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I don't know enough about Harry Potter and The Cursed Child to know if it's a stinker. It was written in collaboration with J.K. Rowling and another guy besides Jack Thorne, so maybe he can't be blamed entirely for that one, if it is a bad story. The play seems to be massively popular, though, so it can't be that awful. I will have to look at what else he's written for TV as I've probably unwittingly watched something of his.
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Possibly so. I grew out of HP at 13 and will probably never return to it ( not because I think it's bad, but it was never my cup o tea ), so Cursed Child shall remain a mystery.


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Re: Colin Trevorrow for Episode IX

Post by Moonlight13 on Wed 2 Aug - 2:07

@ZioRen wrote:I'm smelling a pushback on IX's release date.
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I've always thought that would happen. Laughing
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Post by Millicent the Cat on Wed 2 Aug - 2:08

What they should do is hire Patty Jenkins to direct and Claudia Gray to write. DONE.
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Post by Helix on Wed 2 Aug - 2:11

Considering how LF is treating toy leaks, they're probably holding CT and the new writer at weapon ( lightsaber? )point while working IX.
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Post by Irina de France on Wed 2 Aug - 2:15

Jack Thorne seems to have a pretty decent background as a writer, so I'm confident. Not my ideal choice, but it's better than just CT and Conolly at the commands. And I admit I've never been a HP fan, so I can't judge for that, lol.
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Re: Colin Trevorrow for Episode IX

Post by IoJovi on Wed 2 Aug - 2:29

I wonder exactly how bad that rough draft was in order for them to take this step?  Sadly, it'll probably never see the light of day, but I'm extremely curious as to what it looked like...

I'm sure it's more than just the rough draft (the Book of Henry fiasco didn't help matters), but still. I'd love to get my hands on it one day.
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Post by Kylo Men on Wed 2 Aug - 2:35

I'm guessing that we will have a new director on the way.

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Post by Moonlight13 on Wed 2 Aug - 2:35

@IoJovi wrote:I wonder exactly how bad that rough draft was in order for them to take this step?  Sadly, it'll probably never see the light of day, but I'm extremely curious as to what it looked like...

I'm sure it's more than just the rough draft (the Book of Henry fiasco didn't help matters), but still. I'd love to get my hands on it one day.
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Who knows? Maybe we'll see it somehow after IX is released. Laughing
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Re: Colin Trevorrow for Episode IX

Post by snufkin on Wed 2 Aug - 2:36

We'll see with this guy. If he does a decent job with the adaption of His Dark Materials, that's promising because it's essentially the same type of heroine's journey (including weird mystical and semi-sexual fated destiny with a male character) that TFA seems like it's trying to set up for Rey. And anything has to be better than entrusting her final chapter to the guys who wrote Jurassic World and how it treated its female characters.

And this is interesting to read, his process in adaptingWoyzeck


The first time I read the play, when the director Joe Murphy suggested we work on it together, I screamed inside. I wanted to work with Joe again, but I felt as if this required one of the great poets of the stage – a Martin Crimp or a Sarah Kane, writers who seem to find the lyrical in the everyday. I am, sadly, a naturalist if I’m anything. Like probably every other writer of my generation, I’ve tried to write like Sarah Kane, but I don’t have the ability. Woyzeck felt like something I just wasn’t capable of. But I read the play again and tried to work out what I might do with it. How I might grapple with its soul.

I realised I could tell the story of my classmates who joined the army. At my school, when kids went into the army at 16, they didn’t do it in a gung-ho, Tom Cruise, Born on the Fourth of July way. They were generally – and I hope this doesn’t offend them – the more vulnerable members of the class. They enlisted seeking family, and they didn’t always find it. Also, Woyzeck is often described as the first working-class tragedy. Joe and I spent a long time discussing what that meant, and how to bring it out. We didn’t want it to be a play about overt oppression – we wanted something more subtle than that.

The Potter part. While I have a huge amount of respect for what JK Rowling has done in kicking off the YA publishing boom and making it cool to read, good lord are the Potter fans and Potter references you run across on Twitter annoying. Especially people who keep trying to make comparisons to the current political situation to "It's like ________ in Harry Potter." Like it's getting more common to see people respond to those type of statements with "It's not like Harry Potter." Just like how people can get a little too precious about Star Wars because of childhood nostalgia, it seems the same thing here. Like just reading that doesn't make me think "oh no," more like take it with a huge grain of salt considering the source.


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Post by Guest on Wed 2 Aug - 2:36

@IoJovi wrote:I wonder exactly how bad that rough draft was in order for them to take this step?  Sadly, it'll probably never see the light of day, but I'm extremely curious as to what it looked like...

I'm sure it's more than just the rough draft (the Book of Henry fiasco didn't help matters), but still. I'd love to get my hands on it one day.
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The official word is that Jack Thorne is rewriting a draft by Colin Trevorrow and Derek Connolly. But as you say, that draft will likely never see the light of day so we won't know how much it survives into the final script.

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Post by Helix on Wed 2 Aug - 2:39

@IoJovi wrote:I wonder exactly how bad that rough draft was in order for them to take this step?  Sadly, it'll probably never see the light of day, but I'm extremely curious as to what it looked like...

I'm sure it's more than just the rough draft (the Book of Henry fiasco didn't help matters), but still. I'd love to get my hands on it one day.
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I've seen plenty of bad rough drafts for big franchises online, but with how air-tight they keep SW these days, I have the same fears.
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Post by Irina de France on Wed 2 Aug - 2:42

@snufkin THANK YOU. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks people should read other books than HP and 1984...

@Helix Lol, remember that godawful Wonder Woman script by Joss Whedon that got leaked? And honestly, I'd pay big money for a doc in 20 years or so talking about LF drama.

Like, for sure, good stories have a certain universality to them, but only backing yourselves with them when you want to make a statement isn't solid enough.
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Post by IoJovi on Wed 2 Aug - 2:50

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:I wonder exactly how bad that rough draft was in order for them to take this step?  Sadly, it'll probably never see the light of day, but I'm extremely curious as to what it looked like...

I'm sure it's more than just the rough draft (the Book of Henry fiasco didn't help matters), but still. I'd love to get my hands on it one day.
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The official word is that Jack Thorne is rewriting a draft by Colin Trevorrow and Derek Connolly. But as you say, that draft will likely never see the light of day so we won't know how much it survives into the final script.
@Mrs Ben Solo

Yeah, I reread the article and you're right. It sounds like they're not throwing the rough draft out completely but they're tightening things up. To what extent I'm sure we'll never know... Shocked

What's interesting is the article mentioned potential rewrites for VIII, but unless they do reshoots this late in the game, I see that as unlikely. I know RJ said he expects to completely wrap up with post production this month.
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Post by snufkin on Wed 2 Aug - 2:56

@Irina de France - You're welcome. I mean, my user name is one of the characters in a pretty classic children's literature series with a rabid fanbase. So I'm not immune to sentiment or nostalgia. But the # of times you see people throwing in a Harry Potter example to explain a real world phenomena, it gets old really fast. It also makes me hugely sympathetic to people who don't like Star Wars and what they have to listen to. But yes, it'd be nice if people branched out to other fiction writers and maybe even some actual historians and political scientists in addition to loving Game of Thrones, Harry Potter, and Star Wars.
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Post by Guest on Wed 2 Aug - 3:02

@IoJovi wrote:
Mrs Ben Solo wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:I wonder exactly how bad that rough draft was in order for them to take this step?  Sadly, it'll probably never see the light of day, but I'm extremely curious as to what it looked like...

I'm sure it's more than just the rough draft (the Book of Henry fiasco didn't help matters), but still. I'd love to get my hands on it one day.
@IoJovi

The official word is that Jack Thorne is rewriting a draft by Colin Trevorrow and Derek Connolly. But as you say, that draft will likely never see the light of day so we won't know how much it survives into the final script.
@Mrs Ben Solo

Yeah, I reread the article and you're right. It sounds like they're not throwing the rough draft out completely but they're tightening things up. To what extent I'm sure we'll never know... Shocked

What's interesting is the article mentioned potential rewrites for VIII, but unless they do reshoots this late in the game, I see that as unlikely. I know RJ said he expects to completely wrap up with post production this month.
@IoJovi

I thought it said something about rewrites to the treatment Rian Johnson wrote for Episode IX? Rian has already tweeted a correction to that article saying he did not write a treatment for Ep IX https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/892533893915492352

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Post by IoJovi on Wed 2 Aug - 3:05

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:
Mrs Ben Solo wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:I wonder exactly how bad that rough draft was in order for them to take this step?  Sadly, it'll probably never see the light of day, but I'm extremely curious as to what it looked like...

I'm sure it's more than just the rough draft (the Book of Henry fiasco didn't help matters), but still. I'd love to get my hands on it one day.
@IoJovi

The official word is that Jack Thorne is rewriting a draft by Colin Trevorrow and Derek Connolly. But as you say, that draft will likely never see the light of day so we won't know how much it survives into the final script.
@Mrs Ben Solo

Yeah, I reread the article and you're right. It sounds like they're not throwing the rough draft out completely but they're tightening things up. To what extent I'm sure we'll never know... Shocked

What's interesting is the article mentioned potential rewrites for VIII, but unless they do reshoots this late in the game, I see that as unlikely. I know RJ said he expects to completely wrap up with post production this month.
@IoJovi

I thought it said something about rewrites to the treatment Rian Johnson wrote for Episode IX? Rian has already tweeted a correction to that article saying he did not write a treatment for Ep IX https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/892533893915492352
@Mrs Ben Solo

Yeah I saw that part two and scratched my head because I remember RJ tweeting he didn't write any sort of treatment. Weird. Well, after the sith that was VF, I don't really trust any journalist these days... Laughing
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Post by tukicarreno on Wed 2 Aug - 3:47

@IoJovi wrote:Yeah, I reread the article and you're right. It sounds like they're not throwing the rough draft out completely but they're tightening things up. To what extent I'm sure we'll never know.

Yeah, that´s the why I interpreted too. It´s not that they are going to ditch Colin´s script completely, but polish it. Whatever that means...
To be honest, I am just hoping he embraces Reylo in the best way possible! *prayer circle*.. I love you
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Post by Cowgirlsamurai on Wed 2 Aug - 3:49

National Treasure...? Not a fan pale
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