Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Page 3 of 3 Previous  1, 2, 3

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by motherofpearl1 on Sat 18 Feb - 16:43

Piper Maru wrote:I enjoy the PT, yes.

The Phantom Menace is... complicated, but I like it because it was the first SW movie I watched on the theaters.

Attack of the Clones has a terrible script, but I love Padmé and Obi-Wan.

Revenge of the Sith is great and one of my favorite SW movies. I love Anakin and his descent, I love his fight with Obi-Wan, and the scene where he becomes Darth Vader is one of the best scenes of the franchise.


Ditto.
I also think that it was the first film that actually showed the Jedi in a not - so - saintly light; at least for me. The scene where Obi Wan leaves Anakin to die in agony still creeps me out. I actually can't see Luke doing that.
@Piper Maru

avatar
motherofpearl1
Force Ghost
Force Ghost

Messages : 1993
Likes : 8136
Date d'inscription : 2016-07-09

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by CienaRee on Sat 18 Feb - 17:40

motherofpearl1 wrote:
Piper Maru wrote:I enjoy the PT, yes.

The Phantom Menace is... complicated, but I like it because it was the first SW movie I watched on the theaters.

Attack of the Clones has a terrible script, but I love Padmé and Obi-Wan.

Revenge of the Sith is great and one of my favorite SW movies. I love Anakin and his descent, I love his fight with Obi-Wan, and the scene where he becomes Darth Vader is one of the best scenes of the franchise.


Ditto.
I also think that it was the first film that actually showed the Jedi in a not - so - saintly light; at least for me. The scene where Obi Wan leaves Anakin to die in agony still creeps me out. I actually can't see Luke doing that.
@Piper Maru

@motherofpearl1

I deffinatly think RTS is the best movie of the prequals.I actually really like some of GL's ideas and what he was trying to do unfortunately he just didn't have a group of people to help him excute the ideas in a good way like in the OT because there was so much more potential than what we ended up getting.For example I've read some wonderful Padme metas over the importance of her character and how she could have had much better storyline than she ended up getting.

CienaRee
Jedi Master
Jedi Master

Messages : 971
Likes : 4813
Date d'inscription : 2016-03-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by Kessel on Sat 18 Feb - 18:26

CienaRee wrote:
motherofpearl1 wrote:
Piper Maru wrote:I enjoy the PT, yes.

The Phantom Menace is... complicated, but I like it because it was the first SW movie I watched on the theaters.

Attack of the Clones has a terrible script, but I love Padmé and Obi-Wan.

Revenge of the Sith is great and one of my favorite SW movies. I love Anakin and his descent, I love his fight with Obi-Wan, and the scene where he becomes Darth Vader is one of the best scenes of the franchise.

Ditto.
I also think that it was the first film that actually showed the Jedi in a not - so - saintly light; at least for me. The scene where Obi Wan leaves Anakin to die in agony still creeps me out. I actually can't see Luke doing that.
@Piper Maru

@motherofpearl1

I deffinatly think RTS is the best movie of the prequals.I actually really like some of GL's ideas and what he was trying to do unfortunately he just didn't have a group of people to help him excute the ideas in a good way like in the OT because there was so much more potential than what we ended up getting.For example I've read some wonderful Padme metas over the importance of her character and how she could have had much better storyline than she ended up getting.
@CienaRee

Yeah, the general idea and outline for the PT were good, but the execution and many of the small creative decisions/details were not well done. I think it's been said that Lucas was the ultimate decision maker when it came to every aspect of the production and he was  director too, so... I think that was a lot of the problem. it would probably have been better had there been more decision making and input from others when it came to the process and execution.

I don't hate the PT, there were good things, but many things were not ideal, imo. I really wish Padme's role had been given more substance since she was the twins' mother and a large part of Anakin's fall. I still can't get over the desccion to have her "lose the will to live" which I found to be one of the worst mistakes in the PT.  I also wish the romance between her and Anakin had been executed a little differently and that Anakin's fall had more emotional build up. I know there was some build up, but it ultimately felt rushed and a little hollow to me. I also have some issues with Anakin's characterization so that colors a lot of my negative impressions of his fall, so I can kind of understand the complaints some people have made about Kylo being Anakin "well done." Don't get my wrong, I don't think Hayden Christiansen did a terrible job and it didn't stop me from being emotionally moved and saddened when Anakin became Vader, but the characterization had some issues.
avatar
Kessel
Force Ghost
Force Ghost

Messages : 1088
Likes : 8590
Date d'inscription : 2016-03-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by CienaRee on Sat 18 Feb - 19:35

Kessel89 wrote:
CienaRee wrote:
motherofpearl1 wrote:
Piper Maru wrote:I enjoy the PT, yes.

The Phantom Menace is... complicated, but I like it because it was the first SW movie I watched on the theaters.

Attack of the Clones has a terrible script, but I love Padmé and Obi-Wan.

Revenge of the Sith is great and one of my favorite SW movies. I love Anakin and his descent, I love his fight with Obi-Wan, and the scene where he becomes Darth Vader is one of the best scenes of the franchise.

Ditto.
I also think that it was the first film that actually showed the Jedi in a not - so - saintly light; at least for me. The scene where Obi Wan leaves Anakin to die in agony still creeps me out. I actually can't see Luke doing that.
@Piper Maru

@motherofpearl1

I deffinatly think RTS is the best movie of the prequals.I actually really like some of GL's ideas and what he was trying to do unfortunately he just didn't have a group of people to help him excute the ideas in a good way like in the OT because there was so much more potential than what we ended up getting.For example I've read some wonderful Padme metas over the importance of her character and how she could have had much better storyline than she ended up getting.
@CienaRee

Yeah, the general idea and outline for the PT were good, but the execution and many of the small creative decisions/details were not well done. I think it's been said that Lucas was the ultimate decision maker when it came to every aspect of the production and he was  director too, so... I think that was a lot of the problem. it would probably have been better had there been more decision making and input from others when it came to the process and execution.

I don't hate the PT, there were good things, but many things were not ideal, imo. I really wish Padme's role had been given more substance since she was the twins' mother and a large part of Anakin's fall. I still can't get over the desccion to have her "lose the will to live" which I found to be one of the worst mistakes in the PT.  I also wish the romance between her and Anakin had been executed a little differently and that Anakin's fall had more emotional build up. I know there was some build up, but it ultimately felt rushed and a little hollow to me. I also have some issues with Anakin's characterization so that colors a lot of my negative impressions of his fall, so I can kind of understand the complaints some people have made about Kylo being Anakin "well done." Don't get my wrong, I don't think Hayden Christiansen did a terrible job and it didn't stop me from being emotionally moved and saddened when Anakin became Vader, but the characterization had some issues.
@Kessel89

Yeah,I mean the more I think about it the whole ''turning to the DS to save Padme'' had potential but the execution just didn't make much sense.I mean we see him be torn and anguished over whether he should betray the Jedi Council or let his wife die and after Mace dies he's still horrified by what he's done but suddenly he's ready to kill children and his best friend and father figure because he wanted more power eventhough GL had scarpped that idea earlier.What was even the point to make Padme the reason for Anakin's fall.
And don't get me started with the whole ''lost the will''crap I've seen some fans try to excuse it but that's also a plotline that makes absolutely no sense because even in her dying moments Padme still believes there's good in Anakin.So you're telli g me she'll just give up whne she believes her husband can be saved +having two infant children that need her?Seriously f**** this crap,I hate it so much it's such an insult to Padme's character.

CienaRee
Jedi Master
Jedi Master

Messages : 971
Likes : 4813
Date d'inscription : 2016-03-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by snufkin on Sat 18 Feb - 20:50

What I do find interesting is the depth of nerd rage it seems to have triggered. Like people feel personally betrayed when it's obviously one man's passion project. I only watched the first movie b/c a neighbor of mine from school got a job at Silicon Graphics to work on the CGI.  It seems more like a missed opportunity that got buried under the CGI, costumes, and badly written space politics. Even when I went on a date to see the re-release of the first movie, that really wasn't enough interest me enough to feel invested in the PT.  

The story itself, I had expected it to be more complex between the characters and something like Camelot. What you got instead was a pair of dumb, lovesick  teenagers. Padme comes off like an over earnest student body president or Diane Court in Say Anything  with a dumb jock boyfriend who has a serious anger management problem. They're just a pair of dumb kids instead of something epic.  I finally watched the whole thing after seeing TFA and can see that part of making things right might be having writers and actors who could pull off the type of forbidden love/DS and LS story the PT failed at. The other thing that hit me over the head was how much of this might have been inspired by Dune. Frank Herbert's original novel tells this story so much better than all 3 PT movies combined.

Also one thing in favor of R1 was in bringing back Jimmy Smits, who is a bad a** and in a more just world, would be (should be) an icon on the level of Harrison Ford and Ewan McGregor. Too bad they didn't make his character more central to space politics because he's one of those actors who walks off with every scene he's in. After reading Bloodline, I would love to see some kind of reference to him in the ST as the two competing patriarchs in the family lineage. His taking in Leia and raising/mentoring her is LS parallel to Snoke and Ben.
avatar
snufkin
Force Ghost
Force Ghost

Messages : 5877
Likes : 25015
Date d'inscription : 2016-04-17
Localisation : it's in the chorus of Pavement's "Unfair"

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by Darth Dementor on Sat 1 Jul - 0:34

No matter how much fans bash the Prequels I would still choose anyone of them over ROTJ. Videos like this only steel my resolve.

_________________
avatar
Darth Dementor
Moderator

Messages : 865
Likes : 3958
Date d'inscription : 2016-03-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by Night Huntress on Fri 25 Aug - 18:51

I don't hate them - but I can't get over the fact they missed a great opportunity.

The story of Anakins fall to the dark side could have been epic...sadly it wasn't. No

The big problem (in my opinion) was that they tried to tell a serious, mature and dark tale, but at the same time make it "fun" for children.
I felt George Lucas focused more on showing great visual scenes but forgot what was really important- the characters and dialog.
I understand he was excited to finally have the technology to create all those spectacular worlds- I really do. But CGI can't make up for missing
a good story and chemistry between actors.

I read a lot of fans complaining about Kylo being whiny - didn't they watch the prequels??? WTH Anakin was SO much worse! I don't know if it was bad directing or HC just couldn't pull it of (I think both). I still don't think of Vader and him as same person because... I just can't.
The "romance" was so bad it was unintentionally funny. I have to admit, I'm not a big fan of Natalie Portman. She's not a bad actress, but somehow
I can't see why all are so impressed with her. Anyway, there was no chemistry between her and HC... and I soooo wanted to like them. I remember I waited like a little kid for the release of AoTC and it was just a letdown Cry

RoTS was only slightly better.

I liked Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan, the Lightsaber fights and the great CGI.
The OT had flaws as well- but unlike the Prequels I rewatched the OT many many times over the years.


avatar
Night Huntress
Jedi Youngling
Jedi Youngling

Messages : 150
Likes : 679
Date d'inscription : 2017-08-24
Age : 35
Localisation : Switzerland

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by vaderito on Sat 26 Aug - 0:19

@Night Huntress GK also made the romance too chaste. You can't do that in a forbidden love story let alone in a Dark Lord-in-making one. It was tonally off. Both required something steamier, Reylo in TFA level with kissing would have been perfect. But... scratch
avatar
vaderito
Force Ghost
Force Ghost

Messages : 8270
Likes : 39492
Date d'inscription : 2016-03-25

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by Night Huntress on Sat 26 Aug - 5:11

vaderito wrote:@Night Huntress GK also made the romance too chaste. You can't do that in a forbidden love story let alone in a Dark Lord-in-making one. It was tonally off. Both required something steamier, Reylo in TFA level with kissing would have been perfect. But... scratch
@vaderito

yeah well, it's Star Wars so I didn't expect anything more then kissing and cuddling. But if we remember Han and Leia just kissed (and fought Laughing ) in ESB and their love Story was epic! Also there was more erotic and chemistry between Rey and Kylo Ren in that interrogation and lightsaber fight scene than between Padme and Anakin in the whole prequels- it wasn't just the missing chemistry with Padme and Anakin -they were somehow "creepy" together. Sapristi

They messed that up big time. Ugh
avatar
Night Huntress
Jedi Youngling
Jedi Youngling

Messages : 150
Likes : 679
Date d'inscription : 2017-08-24
Age : 35
Localisation : Switzerland

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by Darth Dementor on Sat 16 Sep - 3:26






_________________
avatar
Darth Dementor
Moderator

Messages : 865
Likes : 3958
Date d'inscription : 2016-03-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by Night Huntress on Tue 3 Oct - 17:03

just watching "revenge of the sith" right now (it's on free TV on a german channel) OMG - it's even worse than I remember Sapristi
avatar
Night Huntress
Jedi Youngling
Jedi Youngling

Messages : 150
Likes : 679
Date d'inscription : 2017-08-24
Age : 35
Localisation : Switzerland

Back to top Go down

Re: Are you a fan of the Prequels?

Post by BB-Rey Yesterday at 23:36

Personally, I love The Phantom Menace. I think it's truly an underrated film. I think it tells a very important message and has great characters. Sure there's a couple cringeworthy moments like Jar Jar's potty humor but, overall I find he serves an important role in the story. It's a story of people helping people and how we might different than someone else but, we shouldn't look at them any less. As well as many other themes sprinkled in. There's a lot to love about it for me and I can always share my review I wrote for it if anyone is interested and wants a different perspective.

Attack of the Clones, I have a harder time with because of the romance (and I love romance plots) but, there's a couple scenes that aren't too bad for me with it. I find the scene in the field cute, honestly. I love Padme and Anakin being playful. There's some good things overall like Obi-Wan, Jango Fett, and Anakin's search for his mother. Hopefully though the mystery of Sifo-Dyas will be answered at some point as I think this would go a long way towards making this one a bit more watchable.

Revenge of the Sith, it's a tragedy. It's just unfortunate Padme didn't have anything more to do than sit around and not do anything while pregnant. The deleted scenes with her and the Rebel Alliance would have added so much. She deserved this and better. Overall though, it's an enjoyable movie especially for the psychological implications and the tale of Darth Plagueis is compelling too. Especially more so I think if Snoke is Plagueis..
avatar
BB-Rey
Jedi Youngling
Jedi Youngling

Messages : 8
Likes : 29
Date d'inscription : 2017-10-15

Back to top Go down

Page 3 of 3 Previous  1, 2, 3

View previous topic View next topic Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum