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Post by Saracene on Fri 6 Jan - 2:58

SoloSideCousin wrote:A very heartfelt tribute from Mark Hamill for Carrie Fisher:

http://ew.com/movies/2017/01/03/carrie-fisher-mark-hamill-tribute/
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What an honest, classy tribute.
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Post by snufkin on Sat 7 Jan - 2:31

Southern California Public Radio interview with Fisher Stevens about the genesis and filming of Bright Lights

The documentary “Bright Lights: Starring Carrie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds” was intended to be a look at a truly remarkable Hollywood family.

But it also ended up being a final look at Reynolds and Fisher in the months before both mother and daughter died, last week, within just days of each other.

The documentary was co-directed by Fisher Stevens and his partner, Alexis Bloom. The filmmakers  were first invited by Carrie Fisher to chronicle her mother’s indomitable pursuit of performing. Even in her eighties, Debbie Reynolds was still hosting a lounge act.

While the mother-daughter bond in the film is undeniable, even if a bit bizarre, the conversations between Reynolds and Fisher about death and mortality make “Bright Lights” almost haunting — especially the moments when Reynolds’ health is clearly failing toward the film’s end.  

Stevens visited The Frame recently and recalled his first impressions of the two women.
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Post by SanghaRen on Sat 7 Jan - 6:19

Wow. I want to see that documentary real bad. It's so cute to see Carrie and Debbie sitting on the stairs of the living room, eating, with the dogs watching them. Bright Lights is a nice title. Funny how everyone describes them as shining. And it's true that they are quite different. Debbie telling Carrie to turn around so her rear is not in the camera Very Happy My mom is also more composed this way, dressing and acting in accordance with some inner code of conduct that I apparently only partly inherited.
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Post by snufkin on Sat 7 Jan - 15:08

SanghaRen wrote:Wow. I want to see that documentary real bad. It's so cute to see Carrie and Debbie sitting on the stairs of the living room, eating, with the dogs watching them. Bright Lights is a nice title. Funny how everyone describes them as shining. And it's true that they are quite different. Debbie telling Carrie to turn around so her rear is not in the camera Very Happy My mom is also more composed this way, dressing and acting in accordance with some inner code of conduct that I apparently only partly inherited.

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I know, considering signing up for HBOGo in order to watch it. Otherwise will have to wait for it to come to iTunes. And the description is a really sweet/touching addendum to the ST, maybe part of why Carrie had mentioned family as one of the themes, because it was on her mind at the time :'|

Bright Lights, HBO’s Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher Documentary, Is Bittersweet and Therapeutic

a heartbreaker of a moment, when Fisher attempts to make sure her mom will have a place to rest backstage at the 2015 Screen Actors Guild Awards, where Fisher presented her mother with the lifetime achievement award. While assistants and ceremony organizers reassure Fisher that her mother will be accommodated, Fisher breaks down crying.

The SAG Award tribute winds up going just fine. After it’s over, Todd and Carrie Fisher, back at home with their mother, ask if she’s prepared to handle getting more lifetime achievement awards.

“I can’t answer it because it’s too special,” she says. “And I won’t be here then. I will have gone on.”

As she speaks these words, she has her arm around her daughter. They’re sitting next to a twinkling Christmas tree that probably should have been taken down but is still standing there in January, defiantly bright. They didn’t know it then, but the two of them would only have a couple more Christmases together. No matter how unsinkable you are, no matter how hard you try to use The Force, it’s impossible to look at that image of mother and daughter, fiercely by each other’s sides, and do anything other than cry.

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Post by snufkin on Mon 9 Jan - 0:14

Nice shout out to Carrie 2x in Meryl Streep's Golden Globes speech, certainly makes me personally think that I'd be cool with seeing her as Leia in IX

My friend, the dear departed Princess Leia said to me, 'Take your broken heart and make it into art'
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Post by Little_Boots on Mon 9 Jan - 12:16

snufkin wrote:Nice shout out to Carrie 2x in Meryl Streep's Golden Globes speech, certainly makes me personally think that I'd be cool with seeing her as Leia in IX

My friend, the dear departed Princess Leia said to me, 'Take your broken heart and make it into art'
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Mon 9 Jan - 12:37

I think it might be Melanie Griffiths as Audrey in 'Something Wild', but snufkin might contradict me here!
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Post by Little_Boots on Mon 9 Jan - 12:47

motherofpearl1 wrote:I think it might be Melanie Griffiths as Audrey in 'Something Wild', but snufkin might contradict me here!
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Yep you are right. I googled it, lol never seen it though.

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Post by motherofpearl1 on Mon 9 Jan - 13:05

It's an interesting film; it starts out as a bit of a satire then becomes something much deeper.
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Post by snufkin on Mon 9 Jan - 13:21

motherofpearl1 wrote:It's an interesting film; it starts out as a bit of a satire then becomes something much deeper.
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It is indeed Melanie Griffith character at the beginning of Something Wild in her Lulu persona with the Louise Brooks wig and reading Hayden Herrera's biography of Frida Kahlo. Right when she first notices Jeff Daniels' Wall Street character getting ready to pull a dine and dash that tips her off that he's not a square. It is a bit of a satire on both suburban and small town "values," but also a very precise balance of screwball comedy and film noir. One of my all-time favorite movies and film soundtracks.



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Post by snufkin on Fri 13 Jan - 13:18

I downloaded HBO Now to get the free month and watching Bright Lights last night. Very sweet and touching, even without the coda that it's capturing the last 2 years of both of their lives. Just by showing their intersecting lives, it says a lot about mothers and daughters, coping with the downturns in life (be it getting older or having a mental illness), and the particular places in the history of the film industry that family sits in. Carrie is of course, hysterical. Though also you can see the vulnerability underneath in how she's used her humor as a way to survive what she's been through. Starting with her parents' very dramatic and very public break-up. They even show a clip of her with her father (who's at the end of his life) where she admits that she started out trying to be funny in order to get his attention/approval in the hopes that he wouldn't leave. We certainly see the very public side of her wit and admire her for it, but the documentary doesn't shy away from showing the person underneath and the challenges in her life which caused her to become that sort of person. It's very much the "laugh because otherwise you'd be crying" philosophy. Which in a way shows how she's like her mother, whose poised and cheerful persona is also a choice of how she deals with life's adversities. It may have started with the training she had as a teenager, being hand picked and trained by MGM under the old Hollywood studio system. But she talks about the break up her marriage with Eddie Fisher and the media/gossip frenzy (an old neighbor who was Carrie's babysitter and friend comes to visit and talks about the paparazzi in their neighborhood), plus the failures of her other husbands, fading of her film career after she hit a certain age, and trying to build a museum for the collection of classic costumes/memorabilia she'd collected. It's more about Debbie than Carrie, which you'd guess was a choice on Carrie's part to really have this as a tribute to her mother's strength and longevity. It also indirectly shows how aware Carrie likely was from an early age about how celebrity and success in the entertainment industry can be a fleeting thing, having watched both of her parents fade from the spotlight. Not much SW related, other than showing her in London getting ready to rehearse for TFA and dealing with Lucasfilm's trainer making her working out and reporting back on her weight and measurements. There's a lot to be said about them making her go through all of that and what was the net benefit for her health? Anyways, it's worth watching and says a lot both about family and Hollywood history. You almost wonder if whatever confrontation was planned between Leia and Ben, some of the themes covered here from Carrie's family (legacy, parental expectations, estrangement because of anger, mental health issues) might have shaped their confrontation.
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Post by SanghaRen on Sat 14 Jan - 5:56

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I was going to ask if someone saw the documentary and saw your post. I hope they will make it available to non HBO Now subscribers.

I don't know if it's an influence of their passing away and being made even more aware of their "better laugh about it than cry about it" attitude, but I found myself laughing through some of the stupid stuff going on at work this week. And it is definitively a healthier attitude than getting angry or upset, which happened way too often last year, even if you on,y fake it at first. Don't know how long it'll last, but the inspiration is there.
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Sun 15 Jan - 10:31

I was watching TFA yet again, and the scene where Han tells Leia their son 'had too much Vader in him' and Leia responds 'That's why I sent him away' and there we have the real reason he fell - sent away because his mum and dad couldn't accept who his grandfather was.

And it suddenly struck me - although I love Leia as a character, and Carrie made her her own,Carrie isn't Leia. Because frankly, Carrie was a better mum. Carrie would never have hidden her child's heritage from them,Carrie would never have sent her child away rather than deal with their problems.
If Carrie had been Ben Solo'smother, Ben Solo would have never become Kylo Ren.
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Sun 15 Jan - 13:08

We watched Bright Lights a few nights ago. I found it really heartbreaking and difficult to watch in some ways, in that it was clear that Carrie had largely been assuming a caretaker role for her mother in recent years, and how much she loved her mother, and yet how emotionally taxing it is to take on that role.

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Post by snufkin on Sun 15 Jan - 16:21

ISeeAnIsland wrote:We watched Bright Lights a few nights ago. I found it really heartbreaking and difficult to watch in some ways, in that it was clear that Carrie had largely been assuming a caretaker role for her mother in recent years, and how much she loved her mother, and yet how emotionally taxing it is to take on that role.

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Yeah that part was both really sweet, but also really hard to watch. They each drop their facade in talking about the other's health issues and caretaking - Debbie about Carrie's mental illness and hospitalization, Carrie when she tells the people at the SAG award rehearsal that they need to have a couch set up for Debbie to rest on b/c she doesn't have the stamina to sit through the entire ceremony. And showing the granddaughter sheparing Debbie off stage after her CT casino show, you get the impression that she's there as a caretaker (and at a very young age no less). You definitely got the feeling that a certain % of Leia being this tough and unstoppable character despite life's disappointments was informed by Debbie.
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Mon 16 Jan - 15:38

Did anyone else catch the re-run of Carrie's SNL episode on Saturday?

There was a sketch where she wore...a gold bikini. (My husband and I both burst out laughing when they did the costume reveal.) It kind of makes you wonder if that particular sketch gave George Lucas the idea or something.

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Post by snufkin on Mon 16 Jan - 23:02

ISeeAnIsland wrote:Did anyone else catch the re-run of Carrie's SNL episode on Saturday?

There was a sketch where she wore...a gold bikini. (My husband and I both burst out laughing when they did the costume reveal.) It kind of makes you wonder if that particular sketch gave George Lucas the idea or something.
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Poor Felicity Jones having that as a warm up act! Hard to say if George got the idea from the BBB sketch, but you can see how she ended up falling in with Ackroyd and Belushi from being on that episode. Speaking of old episodes, just caught this from when she was last on CBS This Morning, with guest appearances by Debbie and Tracy Ullman (where she and Tracy riff on the fact that George owns the likeness of her image)

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Post by Kessel on Tue 17 Jan - 7:49

I also saw Bright Lights on HBO this weekend. It was a very fascinating look into Carrie's life, along with Debbie and Todd. I enjoyed it, although it was bittersweet and a little sad sometimes (in retrospect). Carrie really was one of a kind, and she and Debbie had a very special bond.
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Post by Birdwoman on Tue 17 Jan - 10:47

My friend was talking to me about this documentary. I have not seen it yet but she was a little surprised that Carrie could not even give general information about Star Wars to her friend. I guess her friend came over while she was packing her bag to head off to London. He asked how it was going on the set of episode 8? She said that she could not talk about it at all. I then explained to her that Carrie accidently will spill spoilers. I told her about the pic of Gary Fisher in her space bear chair. She had no idea that was a spoiler and got yelled at by a producer because she posted that pic.

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Post by panki on Tue 24 Jan - 5:06

I read some fans suggesting that the role of Princess Leia be re-cast and one of her sisters play the role in episode 9.....while I really hate the idea of re-casting another actress, this is something I don't mind at all....it sounds a lot nicer than some unrelated actress playing the role....what do you all think?

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Post by motherofpearl1 on Tue 24 Jan - 12:28

panki wrote:I read some fans suggesting that the role of Princess Leia be re-cast and one of her sisters play the role in episode 9.....while I really hate the idea of re-casting another actress, this is something I don't mind at all....it sounds a lot nicer than some unrelated actress playing the role....what do you all think?
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I think it's best to leave it up to Carrie's loved ones.
They knew her best, and I would like them to have the final say!
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Post by panki on Tue 24 Jan - 12:42

motherofpearl1 wrote:
panki wrote:I read some fans suggesting that the role of Princess Leia be re-cast and one of her sisters play the role in episode 9.....while I really hate the idea of re-casting another actress, this is something I don't mind at all....it sounds a lot nicer than some unrelated actress playing the role....what do you all think?
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I think it's best to leave it up to Carrie's loved ones.
They knew her best, and I would like them to have the final say!
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I agree with that completely..... but since the topic of re-casting has been discussed on and off, I just brought up something that I thought would be a respectful way to approach it...if they take that route (since I am otherwise against the idea of re-casting).

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Post by motherofpearl1 on Tue 24 Jan - 12:53

Yes, it would.
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