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Post by Saracene on Sun 30 Jul - 1:49

@ZioRen wrote:To be fair about the ring, didn't the recent TLJ poster of Leia also have it showcased pretty heavily? It does seem to hold some significance. And if it doesn't, then the focus on it is strange.
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I don't necessarily think though that the poster means to showcase the ring. It could just be an artistic decision to have Leia hold up her hand, to add more detail and interest to the image. Rather than having a plain shot of her upper half.
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Post by panki on Sun 30 Jul - 2:25

I'm wondering if Leia's ring is now being highlighted with merchandising intent rather than only story....many of the characters are wearing jewelry accessories in TLJ- Leia's ring, Luke's rumored red pedant, Poe's ring on a chain, Snoke's rumored pop ring and DJ's dark ring so far.

They had success creating two jewelry lines based off Jyn's kyber pendant- an expensive one with gold, diamond accents and a natural crystal, and a less expensive one as well. Similarly, I think we might see a TLJ themed jewelry line too.

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Post by Rei of Sunshine on Sun 30 Jul - 3:58

@panki wrote:I'm wondering if Leia's ring is now being highlighted with merchandising intent rather than only story....many of the characters are wearing jewelry accessories in TLJ- Leia's ring, Luke's rumored red pedant, Poe's ring on a chain, Snoke's rumored pop ring and DJ's dark ring so far.

They had success creating two jewelry lines based off Jyn's kyber pendant- an expensive one with gold, diamond accents and a natural crystal, and a less expensive one as well. Similarly, I think we might see a TLJ themed jewelry line too.

http://www.starwars.com/news/every-kyber-begins-with-kay
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[size=46]I need a Reylo jewelry... A ring or a necklace. GDI if everyone else gets bling then there's gotta be one for Reylo!
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Post by panki on Sun 30 Jul - 4:00

@Rei of Sunshine wrote:
@panki wrote:I'm wondering if Leia's ring is now being highlighted with merchandising intent rather than only story....many of the characters are wearing jewelry accessories in TLJ- Leia's ring, Luke's rumored red pedant, Poe's ring on a chain, Snoke's rumored pop ring and DJ's dark ring so far.

They had success creating two jewelry lines based off Jyn's kyber pendant- an expensive one with gold, diamond accents and a natural crystal, and a less expensive one as well. Similarly, I think we might see a TLJ themed jewelry line too.

http://www.starwars.com/news/every-kyber-begins-with-kay
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[size=46]I need a Reylo jewelry... A ring or a necklace. GDI if everyone else gets bling then there's gotta be one for Reylo!
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I'm sure there will be some Rey/Kylo/Reylo bling too...but they're probably saving it for a reveal closer to the movie release. Smile

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Post by Rei of Sunshine on Sun 30 Jul - 4:06

@panki wrote:
@Rei of Sunshine wrote:
@panki wrote:I'm wondering if Leia's ring is now being highlighted with merchandising intent rather than only story....many of the characters are wearing jewelry accessories in TLJ- Leia's ring, Luke's rumored red pedant, Poe's ring on a chain, Snoke's rumored pop ring and DJ's dark ring so far.

They had success creating two jewelry lines based off Jyn's kyber pendant- an expensive one with gold, diamond accents and a natural crystal, and a less expensive one as well. Similarly, I think we might see a TLJ themed jewelry line too.

http://www.starwars.com/news/every-kyber-begins-with-kay
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[size=70]I need a Reylo jewelry... A ring or a necklace. GDI if everyone else gets bling then there's gotta be one for Reylo!
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@Rei of Sunshine

I'm sure there will be some Rey/Kylo/Reylo bling too...but they're probably saving it for a reveal closer to the movie release. Smile
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Or even after release to keep away spoilers.. Much like the Jedi!Rey dolls. 

But seriously speculating, if there is a plot significant piece of jewelry for Reylo (think Aragorn and Arwen's pendant) what would it be?

A ring? A pendant? A bracelet? Or is Rey too contemporary of a woman to even consider jewelry? lol.
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Post by panki on Sun 30 Jul - 5:19

@Rei of Sunshine wrote:
@panki wrote:
@Rei of Sunshine wrote:
@panki wrote:I'm wondering if Leia's ring is now being highlighted with merchandising intent rather than only story....many of the characters are wearing jewelry accessories in TLJ- Leia's ring, Luke's rumored red pedant, Poe's ring on a chain, Snoke's rumored pop ring and DJ's dark ring so far.

They had success creating two jewelry lines based off Jyn's kyber pendant- an expensive one with gold, diamond accents and a natural crystal, and a less expensive one as well. Similarly, I think we might see a TLJ themed jewelry line too.

http://www.starwars.com/news/every-kyber-begins-with-kay
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[size=70]I need a Reylo jewelry... A ring or a necklace. GDI if everyone else gets bling then there's gotta be one for Reylo!
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@Rei of Sunshine

I'm sure there will be some Rey/Kylo/Reylo bling too...but they're probably saving it for a reveal closer to the movie release. Smile
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Or even after release to keep away spoilers.. Much like the Jedi!Rey dolls. 

But seriously speculating, if there is a plot significant piece of jewelry for Reylo (think Aragorn and Arwen's pendant) what would it be?

A ring? A pendant? A bracelet? Or is Rey too contemporary of a woman to even consider jewelry? lol.
@Rei of Sunshine

I think an ideal reylo jewelry piece might be something Kylo improvises for her with wirework, maybe a simple bracelet. Wirework would be fitting since she is good at tinkering with machinery and it would also be a nod to Anakin making Padme a pendant, without being an exact copy of the same thing.



Speaking of contemporary, I would love to see Rose sport this type of geek girl hairclip since she is a mechanic...it has all these amazing gadgets.


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Post by Armadeus on Sun 30 Jul - 9:31

The picture of Luke posing with his serpent-head staff brought to mind Wanderer Above the Sea of Fog by Caspar David Friedrich



Then I remembered the last scene of TFA and thought of Friedrich's Monk by the Sea:

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Post by motherofpearl1 on Mon 31 Jul - 3:28

Okay, for anyone who hasn't seen it...

Check out the 'alternative' trailer on this great blog;
http://thedarkside-and-thelight.tumblr.com/

It's incredible!
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Post by Marie Ren on Mon 31 Jul - 4:44

@motherofpearl1 wrote:Okay, for anyone who hasn't seen it...

Check out the 'alternative' trailer on this great blog;
http://thedarkside-and-thelight.tumblr.com/

It's incredible!
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That trailer is well-done and amazing, indeed!
Really hope we'll get to see something like that in TLJ
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Post by motherofpearl1 on Mon 31 Jul - 7:26

@Marie Ren wrote:
@motherofpearl1 wrote:Okay, for anyone who hasn't seen it...

Check out the 'alternative' trailer on this great blog;
http://thedarkside-and-thelight.tumblr.com/

It's incredible!
@motherofpearl1

That trailer is well-done and amazing, indeed!
Really hope we'll get to see something like that in TLJ
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I really would like to see Rey trained by Kylo. I have a strong feeling he's going to tell her they can beat Snoke if they team up.
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Post by Guest on Tue 1 Aug - 23:01

I wasn't sure where to post this, but for the past day or so, I've been thinking a lot about Kylo's lightsaber and Luke's apparent lack of one.

I don't have the source, but there is a rumor that Luke wears a shard of Kyber crystal around his neck. What if Kylo is actually using the crystal from Luke's lightsaber for his own, and the reason it's cracked/unstable is due to the missing piece, which Luke still has?

I've done some reading on Kylo's lightsaber before for fan fiction purposes and while an emphasis is usually made on its instability due to the damaged crystal, nothing is said about where he got it.

Now that it seems Luke will not be wielding a lightsaber in TLJ, at least from what we know so far, I'm thinking the reason for that could be staring us in the face: it's currently being used to power Kylo's crossguard saber.

I have also begun to think that the crystal will ultimately be healed, and it'll be symbolic of the healing of the Skywalker family.

Thoughts? Smile

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Post by Moonlight13 on Tue 1 Aug - 23:21

WhatGirl wrote:I wasn't sure where to post this, but for the past day or so, I've been thinking a lot about Kylo's lightsaber and Luke's apparent lack of one.

I don't have the source, but there is a rumor that Luke wears a shard of Kyber crystal around his neck. What if Kylo is actually using the crystal from Luke's lightsaber for his own, and the reason it's cracked/unstable is due to the missing piece, which Luke still has?

I've done some reading on Kylo's lightsaber before for fan fiction purposes and while an emphasis is usually made on its instability due to the damaged crystal, nothing is said about where he got it.

Now that it seems Luke will not be wielding a lightsaber in TLJ, at least from what we know so far, I'm thinking the reason for that could be staring us in the face: it's currently being used to power Kylo's crossguard saber.

I have also begun to think that the crystal will ultimately be healed, and it'll be symbolic of the healing of the Skywalker family.

Thoughts? Smile
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I think it would be interesting. In that case, what could have happened to his own Kyber crystal? (assuming he had a lightsaber before becoming Kylo Ren...)
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Post by Guest on Tue 1 Aug - 23:25

@Moonlight13 wrote:I think it would be interesting. In that case, what could have happened to his own Kyber crystal? (assuming he had a lightsaber before becoming Kylo Ren...)
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Maybe he had been using Anakin's before it got lost/stolen? He said that it belonged to him, so maybe he owned it previously.

If only I had the nerve to ask Pablo or Matt about these things. Laugh

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Post by Moonlight13 on Tue 1 Aug - 23:37

WhatGirl wrote:
@Moonlight13 wrote:I think it would be interesting. In that case, what could have happened to his own Kyber crystal? (assuming he had a lightsaber before becoming Kylo Ren...)
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Maybe he had been using Anakin's before it got lost/stolen? He said that it belonged to him, so maybe he owned it previously.

If only I had the nerve to ask Pablo or Matt about these things. Laugh
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It makes sense. Very Happy It would have a deeper meaning now that it's Rey's lightsaber. It's like she's "taking his place".
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Tue 1 Aug - 23:39

@Moonlight13 wrote:
WhatGirl wrote:
@Moonlight13 wrote:I think it would be interesting. In that case, what could have happened to his own Kyber crystal? (assuming he had a lightsaber before becoming Kylo Ren...)
@Moonlight13

Maybe he had been using Anakin's before it got lost/stolen? He said that it belonged to him, so maybe he owned it previously.

If only I had the nerve to ask Pablo or Matt about these things. Laugh
@WhatGirl

It makes sense. Very Happy It would have a deeper meaning now that it's Rey's lightsaber. It's like she's "taking his place".
@Moonlight13

And Rey "taking his place" becomes more poignant if the rumor that "Ben fell in Rey's place" turns out to be true.

As far as the lightsaber/crystal goes, it would sure make a lot of sense if it was the case that Kylo had Luke's crystal...and that it ultimately undergoes a symbolic healing.
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Post by Moonlight13 on Tue 1 Aug - 23:45

@ISeeAnIsland wrote:
@Moonlight13 wrote:
WhatGirl wrote:
@Moonlight13 wrote:I think it would be interesting. In that case, what could have happened to his own Kyber crystal? (assuming he had a lightsaber before becoming Kylo Ren...)
@Moonlight13

Maybe he had been using Anakin's before it got lost/stolen? He said that it belonged to him, so maybe he owned it previously.

If only I had the nerve to ask Pablo or Matt about these things. Laugh
@WhatGirl

It makes sense. Very Happy It would have a deeper meaning now that it's Rey's lightsaber. It's like she's "taking his place".
@Moonlight13

And Rey "taking his place" becomes more poignant if the rumor that "Ben fell in Rey's place" turns out to be true.

As far as the lightsaber/crystal goes, it would sure make a lot of sense if it was the case that Kylo had Luke's crystal...and that it ultimately undergoes a symbolic healing.
@ISeeAnIsland

And it would be very symbolic if she gives it back to Ben after he comes back to the Light. Smile
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Post by Kessel on Wed 2 Aug - 0:51

Some people speculate that Kylo's kyber crystal might be the crystal from Vader's old red lightsaner, hence it being cracked, but the theory that it comes from Luke's lightsaber is very interesting...how do lightsaber colors work with kyber crystals in the new canon, since Luke's lightsaber was green and Kylo's is red. Can they change colors? If Luke still has a shard, would that mean the crystal was broken and Luke's lightsaber destroyed while it was with Luke?

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Post by Irina de France on Wed 2 Aug - 7:39

@Kessel Kyber crystals turn red because they are "bleeding" and they have been stolen from their true owner. So of course, if the kyber crystal really is Luke's, that means Kylo destroyed his lightsaber in order to get it... and if he was not careful, that could explain why it's cracked.

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Post by SanghaRen on Wed 2 Aug - 7:59

WhatGirl wrote:I wasn't sure where to post this, but for the past day or so, I've been thinking a lot about Kylo's lightsaber and Luke's apparent lack of one.

I don't have the source, but there is a rumor that Luke wears a shard of Kyber crystal around his neck. What if Kylo is actually using the crystal from Luke's lightsaber for his own, and the reason it's cracked/unstable is due to the missing piece, which Luke still has?

I've done some reading on Kylo's lightsaber before for fan fiction purposes and while an emphasis is usually made on its instability due to the damaged crystal, nothing is said about where he got it.

Now that it seems Luke will not be wielding a lightsaber in TLJ, at least from what we know so far, I'm thinking the reason for that could be staring us in the face: it's currently being used to power Kylo's crossguard saber.

I have also begun to think that the crystal will ultimately be healed, and it'll be symbolic of the healing of the Skywalker family.

Thoughts? Smile
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That is one cool theory  Thumbs up . If we don't get something cool about cystals in TLJ, I'll be a bit disappointed because they show up everywhere even in non Force / Jedi stories like the Inferno Squad book - not in a crucial way but still nice. Sometimes I feel like Lucasfilm is holding a sign "Crystals!" in our faces. Well fans' faces because in terms of general marketing for the GA, crystals are not very present. Yes, they are in the lightsabers, but you know what I mean. Up until 1.5 years ago, I was a GA person and crystal stuff was flying way above my head. I didn't even know the Death Star was powered with crystals.
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Post by panki on Wed 2 Aug - 8:40

@SanghaRen wrote:
WhatGirl wrote:I wasn't sure where to post this, but for the past day or so, I've been thinking a lot about Kylo's lightsaber and Luke's apparent lack of one.

I don't have the source, but there is a rumor that Luke wears a shard of Kyber crystal around his neck. What if Kylo is actually using the crystal from Luke's lightsaber for his own, and the reason it's cracked/unstable is due to the missing piece, which Luke still has?

I've done some reading on Kylo's lightsaber before for fan fiction purposes and while an emphasis is usually made on its instability due to the damaged crystal, nothing is said about where he got it.

Now that it seems Luke will not be wielding a lightsaber in TLJ, at least from what we know so far, I'm thinking the reason for that could be staring us in the face: it's currently being used to power Kylo's crossguard saber.

I have also begun to think that the crystal will ultimately be healed, and it'll be symbolic of the healing of the Skywalker family.

Thoughts? Smile
@WhatGirl

That is one cool theory  Thumbs up . If we don't get something cool about cystals in TLJ, I'll be a bit disappointed because they show up everywhere even in non Force / Jedi stories like the Inferno Squad book - not in a crucial way but still nice. Sometimes I feel like Lucasfilm is holding a sign "Crystals!" in our faces. Well fans' faces because in terms of general marketing for the GA, crystals are not very present. Yes, they are in the lightsabers, but you know what I mean. Up until 1.5 years ago, I was a GA person and crystal stuff was flying way above my head. I didn't even know the Death Star was powered with crystals.
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On the subject of crystals, I'm seriously wondering whether Mace Windu has some connection to the Dreamer's home base planet or the Kage warriors.... it could explain why his kyber turned amethyst colour.

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Post by SanghaRen on Wed 2 Aug - 12:01

@panki

I thought that it was purple because Samuel L. Jackson wanted it to be purple. Although I guess they could use his color preference years later and build a story around it.

So will Finn, since he's his son, get a purple lightsaber? I am joking Very Happy
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Post by panki on Wed 2 Aug - 12:36

@SanghaRen wrote:@panki

I thought that it was purple because Samuel L. Jackson wanted it to be purple. Although I guess they could use his color preference years later and build a story around it.

So will Finn, since he's his son, get a purple lightsaber? I am joking Very Happy
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You're right about the original reason for the purple lightsaber i.e. Samuel L. Jackson' choice... but there was an EU comic about him finding his lightsaber crystal on a planet with weird purple stone-like inhabitants and purple crystals, which reminds me a bit of what we see in Inferno Squad...so it would be interesting if they make that connection.

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Post by SanghaRen on Wed 2 Aug - 13:51

A question is bugging me now and I can't believe I am going into such details now - hello fanboy territory. Can a lightsaber with another color as red flicker or does the unstable crystal automatically bleed because it's compromised?
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Post by panki on Wed 2 Aug - 14:12

@SanghaRen wrote:A question is bugging me now and I can't believe I am going into such details now - hello fanboy territory. Can a lightsaber with another color as red flicker or does the unstable crystal automatically bleed because it's compromised?
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I think an unstable cracked crystal need not always be a crystal that was bled.....a kyber crystal can be unstable for many reasons....it might not be faceted properly by the user before lightsaber construction, it might get scratched when the lightsaber is being built or it might get damaged when the crystal is taken out of an existing lightsaber...these problems can arise even if a force user has bonded with the crystal.

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