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Post by IoJovi on Mon 7 Aug - 22:25

@Saracene wrote:
@MrsWindu wrote:As as I'm very late to this can I ask how did those on the forum feel when those pics of Daisy, Mark and Adam arriving in Belfast came through? I wasn't very keen on the other SW forums and and although I'm not always the sharpest pencil in the box I couldn't see how what they kept saying over and over made much sense to move the Skywalker story forward in this trilogy.
@MrsWindu

I always thought it was given that, Reylo or no Reylo, Kylo would eventually track down the island he was so badly after in TFA. So I wasn't surprised when those pics came through.
@Saracene

I wasn't outright shocked when I saw the photos for the same reason you state, but I was super excited nonetheless when they were released. I think I squeeled in my cubicle at work. Heck, I'm still screaming... Laughing

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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Mon 7 Aug - 22:47

@IoJovi wrote:
@Saracene wrote:
@MrsWindu wrote:As as I'm very late to this can I ask how did those on the forum feel when those pics of Daisy, Mark and Adam arriving in Belfast came through? I wasn't very keen on the other SW forums and and although I'm not always the sharpest pencil in the box I couldn't see how what they kept saying over and over made much sense to move the Skywalker story forward in this trilogy.
@MrsWindu

I always thought it was given that, Reylo or no Reylo, Kylo would eventually track down the island he was so badly after in TFA. So I wasn't surprised when those pics came through.
@Saracene

I wasn't outright shocked when I saw the photos for the same reason you state, but I was super excited nonetheless when they were released. I think I squeeled in my cubicle at work. Heck, I'm still screaming... Laughing
@IoJovi

Gawd, I remember that (as usual) the cats woke me up at 5am to feed them that day, and I happened to check the forum on my phone, and I was so ridiculously excited that I couldn't get back to sleep that morning.

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Post by snufkin on Tue 8 Aug - 0:56

Finally caught the PBS series Ireland's Wild Coast. The opening segment is about Skellig Michael's history, including the beehive huts/monastery and mostly about its bird colonies. Can definitely see if the Porgs are a tip of the hat to its ever present Puffins. One interesting detail (and the whole thing is in the first 20 minutes) are that birds coming in from sea typically land under darkness because of fighting over territory will happen otherwise. The photojournalist narrating/filming the series makes the point several time that the islands from that region, including Skellig, really do feel like sitting on the edge of the Earth and give you a sense of being in the past. The photography, especially in Imax 70mm for the Force plot part of the story is going to look amazing.



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Post by Darth_Awakened on Tue 8 Aug - 3:23

@MrsWindu wrote:As as I'm very late to this can I ask how did those on the forum feel when those pics of Daisy, Mark and Adam arriving in Belfast came through? I wasn't very keen on the other SW forums and and although I'm not always the sharpest pencil in the box I couldn't see how what they kept saying over and over made much sense to move the Skywalker story forward in this trilogy.
@MrsWindu

For my part I was in my office at my work place (it was around noon over here in my part of Europe). Remember vividly the excitement and the sense of triumph and party spirit on the forum.
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Post by MrsWindu on Tue 8 Aug - 7:00

@Darth_Awakened wrote:
@MrsWindu wrote:As as I'm very late to this can I ask how did those on the forum feel when those pics of Daisy, Mark and Adam arriving in Belfast came through? I wasn't very keen on the other SW forums and and although I'm not always the sharpest pencil in the box I couldn't see how what they kept saying over and over made much sense to move the Skywalker story forward in this trilogy.
@MrsWindu

For my part I was in my office at my work place (it was around noon over here in my part of Europe). Remember vividly the excitement and the sense of triumph and party spirit on the forum.
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Thanks so much for sharing @IoJovi @ISeeAnIsland I can almost feel the excitement you must have all felt - not knowing if the theories would really pan out. By heck I'm glad they did!!
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Post by MrsWindu on Tue 8 Aug - 7:03

@snufkin wrote:Finally caught the PBS series Ireland's Wild Coast. The opening segment is about Skellig Michael's history, including the beehive huts/monastery and mostly about its bird colonies. Can definitely see if the Porgs are a tip of the hat to its ever present Puffins. One interesting detail (and the whole thing is in the first 20 minutes) are that birds coming in from sea typically land under darkness because of fighting over territory will happen otherwise. The photojournalist narrating/filming the series makes the point several time that the islands from that region, including Skellig, really do feel like sitting on the edge of the Earth and give you a sense of being in the past. The photography, especially in Imax 70mm for the Force plot part of the story is going to look amazing.



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@snufkin

I'm seriously looking into visiting Skellig with my kids next year. The TripAdviser write up says it would be AMAZING experience. It would be quite easy for us to get a flight to Kerry and explore that Atlantic Coast


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Post by MrsWindu on Tue 8 Aug - 7:05

@snufkin wrote:
@ISeeAnIsland wrote:
@MrsWindu wrote:As as I'm very late to this can I ask how did those on the forum feel when those pics of Daisy, Mark and Adam arriving in Belfast came through? I wasn't very keen on the other SW forums and and although I'm not always the sharpest pencil in the box I couldn't see how what they kept saying over and over made much sense to move the Skywalker story forward in this trilogy.
@MrsWindu

The put it bluntly, we had a huge celebration on the forum the day that those paparazzi pics were posted.

For me, that was my "OMG, this really could happen" moment, instead of just thinking that it would be the more interesting story direction if LF had the guts...
@ISeeAnIsland

Same here. Like complete giddy shock that the suspicion I'd been harboring and then thought "nahhh, they won't do that" might actually have a chance.

@MrsWindu, from the Archives

When the paparazzi airport photos dropped (scroll down to @Kessel's comment on that page)

Rumored potential canoodling photo
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Thanks so much - I felt like a stalker reading about it all....so fun and happy you all were.
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Post by snufkin on Tue 8 Aug - 14:06

@MrsWindu - it was the biggest nerd out ever, my first thought was that it's going to be like The Tempest

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Post by MrsWindu on Tue 8 Aug - 14:25

@snufkin wrote:@MrsWindu - it was the biggest nerd out ever, my first thought was that it's going to be like The Tempest

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hahaha - I bet!! I'm just glad I'll be officially here when we can pick apart the next trailer lol
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Post by MrsWindu on Tue 8 Aug - 14:27

@MrsWindu wrote:
@snufkin wrote:Finally caught the PBS series Ireland's Wild Coast. The opening segment is about Skellig Michael's history, including the beehive huts/monastery and mostly about its bird colonies. Can definitely see if the Porgs are a tip of the hat to its ever present Puffins. One interesting detail (and the whole thing is in the first 20 minutes) are that birds coming in from sea typically land under darkness because of fighting over territory will happen otherwise. The photojournalist narrating/filming the series makes the point several time that the islands from that region, including Skellig, really do feel like sitting on the edge of the Earth and give you a sense of being in the past. The photography, especially in Imax 70mm for the Force plot part of the story is going to look amazing.



Those of you outside the States can likely watch the series if you have a VPN (like the Hola browser extension) set up to emulate a US IP address. Videos are up until the end of this month.
@snufkin

I'm seriously looking into visiting Skellig with my kids next year. The TripAdviser write up says it would be AMAZING experience. It would be quite easy for us to get a flight to Kerry and explore that Atlantic Coast
@MrsWindu

UPDATE... I AM going to Skellig Michael next year. I just booked accommodation in the port where the boat tours leave from
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Post by snufkin on Tue 8 Aug - 15:28

@MrsWindu - lucky you! I wonder how much more tourism they'll be getting as world heritage site after TLJ comes out. The documentary they showed here in the States was beautiful. We have that same type of coastline here (Northern California) but likely more humans and no puffins/porgs to be found!
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Post by MrsWindu on Tue 8 Aug - 18:04

@snufkin wrote:@MrsWindu - lucky you! I wonder how much more tourism they'll be getting as world heritage site after TLJ comes out. The documentary they showed here in the States was beautiful. We have that same type of coastline here (Northern California) but likely more humans and no puffins/porgs to be found!
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I can only imagine its going to off the charts! I've been told to book a boat tour now for the very end of May to avoid disappointment. My kids are crazy excited and youngest wants to go dressed as Rey lol
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Post by nemapasara on Tue 8 Aug - 19:57

I know TvTropes is subjective but I do love all the tropes and I was looking through the TLJ page the other day. Loved this part in particular:

Good Scars, Evil Scars: Played with. Despite Rey cutting a large wound into his face with a lightsaber in the last film, the conflicted Kylo Ren has a clean, thin scarline going from his brow to his jaw, rather than a large ugly one. This is in contrast to the outright evil Big Bad, Supreme Leader Snoke, who has large disfiguring scars all over his face and body.

And from the actual "Good Scars, Evil Scars" trope page:

You can easily tell heroes from villains by their scars.
Good guys tend to scar in an attractive, fashionable manner — usually a single neat pale line, flush with the skin and placed in one of the following strategic locations: straight across one cheek, straight down from beneath the eye (popular with tough and/or grizzled characters), or straight up from the eyebrow.

The Anti-Hero can go either way. Anti heroes sometimes tend to have a scar starting from below the eye and ending above it while the eye itself is usually intact.
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Post by Moonlight13 on Tue 8 Aug - 20:07

@nemapasara wrote:I know TvTropes is subjective but I do love all the tropes and I was looking through the TLJ page the other day. Loved this part in particular:

Good Scars, Evil Scars: Played with. Despite Rey cutting a large wound into his face with a lightsaber in the last film, the conflicted Kylo Ren has a clean, thin scarline going from his brow to his jaw, rather than a large ugly one. This is in contrast to the outright evil Big Bad, Supreme Leader Snoke, who has large disfiguring scars all over his face and body.

And from the actual "Good Scars, Evil Scars" trope page:

You can easily tell heroes from villains by their scars.
Good guys tend to scar in an attractive, fashionable manner — usually a single neat pale line, flush with the skin and placed in one of the following strategic locations: straight across one cheek, straight down from beneath the eye (popular with tough and/or grizzled characters), or straight up from the eyebrow.

The Anti-Hero can go either way. Anti heroes sometimes tend to have a scar starting from below the eye and ending above it while the eye itself is usually intact.
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Post by nemapasara on Tue 8 Aug - 20:16

@Moonlight13 wrote:
@nemapasara wrote:I know TvTropes is subjective but I do love all the tropes and I was looking through the TLJ page the other day. Loved this part in particular:

Good Scars, Evil Scars: Played with. Despite Rey cutting a large wound into his face with a lightsaber in the last film, the conflicted Kylo Ren has a clean, thin scarline going from his brow to his jaw, rather than a large ugly one. This is in contrast to the outright evil Big Bad, Supreme Leader Snoke, who has large disfiguring scars all over his face and body.

And from the actual "Good Scars, Evil Scars" trope page:

You can easily tell heroes from villains by their scars.
Good guys tend to scar in an attractive, fashionable manner — usually a single neat pale line, flush with the skin and placed in one of the following strategic locations: straight across one cheek, straight down from beneath the eye (popular with tough and/or grizzled characters), or straight up from the eyebrow.

The Anti-Hero can go either way. Anti heroes sometimes tend to have a scar starting from below the eye and ending above it while the eye itself is usually intact.
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Here's another one:

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Post by motherofpearl1 on Thu 10 Aug - 2:58

I still chuckle at Rian's decision to move Kylo's scar; if someone was hit across the eye with a lightsabre it would without a shadow of a doubt cause serious damage to said eye...
It does however give him a resemblance to one of celluloid's most famous antiheroes: the Outlaw Josey Wales.
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Post by cnunn on Mon 14 Aug - 12:35

So this is random, but it woke me up in the middle of the night, and I'm currently obsessing: do we think Rey actually knows that Kylo is Han and Leia's son? I mean, we assume so, but Han never said anything to her, and the most Kylo said about the matter was that line about how Han Solo would have disappointed her as a father. And I don't think she could have overheard their conversation on the catwalk, before Kylo kills Han. My point is, do we think that Luke tells her the condensed story of Ben Solo at some point early in TLJ? And maybe that could be the point where she starts to have inklings of compassion for him, being stalked by Snoke his whole life, etc?

Daisy's interview the other day was interesting, where she was speaking to the fact that Rey, having no parents, couldn't understand why someone who had them would kill his own father - but this conflict within herself could cause some interesting developments in her feelings towards Kylo. And I wouldn't be mad if Luke throws in an anecdote about young Ben doing something cute. Thoughts? Or maybe I'm reading too much into this, and Rey already realizes that Kylo is Han and Leia's son, and Luke's nephew.

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Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Mon 14 Aug - 12:41

@cnunn wrote:So this is random, but it woke me up in the middle of the night, and I'm currently obsessing: do we think Rey actually knows that Kylo is Han and Leia's son? I mean, we assume so, but Han never said anything to her, and the most Kylo said about the matter was that line about how Han Solo would have disappointed her as a father. And I don't think she could have overheard their conversation on the catwalk, before Kylo kills Han. My point is, do we think that Luke tells her the condensed story of Ben Solo at some point early in TLJ? And maybe that could be the point where she starts to have inklings of compassion for him, being stalked by Snoke his whole life, etc?

Daisy's interview the other day was interesting, where she was speaking to the fact that Rey, having no parents, couldn't understand why someone who had them would kill his own father - but this conflict within herself could cause some interesting developments in her feelings towards Kylo. And I wouldn't be mad if Luke throws in an anecdote about young Ben doing something cute. Thoughts? Or maybe I'm reading too much into this, and Rey already realizes that Kylo is Han and Leia's son, and Luke's nephew.
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I could be remembering things wrong, but I believe JJ or someone else said that Rey did overhear Han saying "face of my son" and parts of the catwalk conversation before the stabbing. This is corroborated by Daisy's recent interview where she said she doesn't understand how someone who has parents and a family could do what Kylo did. I'm pretty sure she starts off TLJ knowing at the very least that Kylo is Han and Leia's kid and Luke's nephew.
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Post by tintarelladiluna on Mon 14 Aug - 12:58

@FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
@cnunn wrote:So this is random, but it woke me up in the middle of the night, and I'm currently obsessing: do we think Rey actually knows that Kylo is Han and Leia's son? I mean, we assume so, but Han never said anything to her, and the most Kylo said about the matter was that line about how Han Solo would have disappointed her as a father. And I don't think she could have overheard their conversation on the catwalk, before Kylo kills Han. My point is, do we think that Luke tells her the condensed story of Ben Solo at some point early in TLJ? And maybe that could be the point where she starts to have inklings of compassion for him, being stalked by Snoke his whole life, etc?

Daisy's interview the other day was interesting, where she was speaking to the fact that Rey, having no parents, couldn't understand why someone who had them would kill his own father - but this conflict within herself could cause some interesting developments in her feelings towards Kylo. And I wouldn't be mad if Luke throws in an anecdote about young Ben doing something cute. Thoughts? Or maybe I'm reading too much into this, and Rey already realizes that Kylo is Han and Leia's son, and Luke's nephew.
@cnunn
I could be remembering things wrong, but I believe JJ or someone else said that Rey did overhear Han saying "face of my son" and parts of the catwalk conversation before the stabbing. This is corroborated by Daisy's recent interview where she said she doesn't understand how someone who has parents and a family could do what Kylo did. I'm pretty sure she starts off TLJ knowing at the very least that Kylo is Han and Leia's kid and Luke's nephew.
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There's also a quote from the novelization at page 258:


It seems to imply that Leia and Rey had a conversation about Kylo Wink
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Post by cnunn on Mon 14 Aug - 13:08

@tintarelladiluna wrote:
@FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
@cnunn wrote:So this is random, but it woke me up in the middle of the night, and I'm currently obsessing: do we think Rey actually knows that Kylo is Han and Leia's son? I mean, we assume so, but Han never said anything to her, and the most Kylo said about the matter was that line about how Han Solo would have disappointed her as a father. And I don't think she could have overheard their conversation on the catwalk, before Kylo kills Han. My point is, do we think that Luke tells her the condensed story of Ben Solo at some point early in TLJ? And maybe that could be the point where she starts to have inklings of compassion for him, being stalked by Snoke his whole life, etc?

Daisy's interview the other day was interesting, where she was speaking to the fact that Rey, having no parents, couldn't understand why someone who had them would kill his own father - but this conflict within herself could cause some interesting developments in her feelings towards Kylo. And I wouldn't be mad if Luke throws in an anecdote about young Ben doing something cute. Thoughts? Or maybe I'm reading too much into this, and Rey already realizes that Kylo is Han and Leia's son, and Luke's nephew.
@cnunn
I could be remembering things wrong, but I believe JJ or someone else said that Rey did overhear Han saying "face of my son" and parts of the catwalk conversation before the stabbing. This is corroborated by Daisy's recent interview where she said she doesn't understand how someone who has parents and a family could do what Kylo did. I'm pretty sure she starts off TLJ knowing at the very least that Kylo is Han and Leia's kid and Luke's nephew.
@FrolickingFizzgig

There's also a quote from the novelization at page 258:


It seems to imply that Leia and Rey had a conversation about Kylo Wink
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Good catch on the novelization! I missed that.

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Post by motherofpearl1 on Mon 14 Aug - 13:41

@cnunn wrote:So this is random, but it woke me up in the middle of the night, and I'm currently obsessing: do we think Rey actually knows that Kylo is Han and Leia's son? I mean, we assume so, but Han never said anything to her, and the most Kylo said about the matter was that line about how Han Solo would have disappointed her as a father. And I don't think she could have overheard their conversation on the catwalk, before Kylo kills Han. My point is, do we think that Luke tells her the condensed story of Ben Solo at some point early in TLJ? And maybe that could be the point where she starts to have inklings of compassion for him, being stalked by Snoke his whole life, etc?

Daisy's interview the other day was interesting, where she was speaking to the fact that Rey, having no parents, couldn't understand why someone who had them would kill his own father - but this conflict within herself could cause some interesting developments in her feelings towards Kylo. And I wouldn't be mad if Luke throws in an anecdote about young Ben doing something cute. Thoughts? Or maybe I'm reading too much into this, and Rey already realizes that Kylo is Han and Leia's son, and Luke's nephew.
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@cnunn wrote:So this is random, but it woke me up in the middle of the night, and I'm currently obsessing: do we think Rey actually knows that Kylo is Han and Leia's son? I mean, we assume so, but Han never said anything to her, and the most Kylo said about the matter was that line about how Han Solo would have disappointed her as a father. And I don't think she could have overheard their conversation on the catwalk, before Kylo kills Han. My point is, do we think that Luke tells her the condensed story of Ben Solo at some point early in TLJ? And maybe that could be the point where she starts to have inklings of compassion for him, being stalked by Snoke his whole life, etc?

Daisy's interview the other day was interesting, where she was speaking to the fact that Rey, having no parents, couldn't understand why someone who had them would kill his own father - but this conflict within herself could cause some interesting developments in her feelings towards Kylo. And I wouldn't be mad if Luke throws in an anecdote about young Ben doing something cute. Thoughts? Or maybe I'm reading too much into this, and Rey already realizes that Kylo is Han and Leia's son, and Luke's nephew.
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I'm pretty sure she does. As does Finn.
Look at their expressions here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh-zGP-LcQQ
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Post by snufkin on Mon 14 Aug - 14:12

Oh she absolutely knows, first from hearing Han calling him "my son." The pensive then heartbroken/furious response points to her knowing even more from what she saw in him. Plus she's the person who was with Leia afterwards, so she knows. She's like Han, an outsider drafted to help who becomes and reluctant hero who's ultimately entangled with this family. And that's what Ache-to points to, she'll learn even more of their secrets, including what really happened with Luke and Ben. That's going to happen in tandem with her finally not being able to outrun her own family demons with being abandoned as a child.
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Post by ISeeAnIsland Yesterday at 16:42

New interview with Rian on the Star Wars show:



Nothing really new here, although he does look pretty adorable.

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Post by Maria Antonietta Yesterday at 19:27

@ISeeAnIsland wrote:New interview with Rian on the Star Wars show:



Nothing really new here, although he does look pretty adorable.
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Post by kroi Yesterday at 23:48

Saw this 'Mommy & Me' costume on Zulily and cracked up... is this Rey with her & Kylo's son dressed up as great-grandpa?!  Laughing  
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