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Post by Xylo Ren on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 8:48 pm

Hey guys,

Because I'm petty af, I made a list of predictions we had based on TFA and different developments that have thus far been proven right. Feel free to add on to anything I missed.

In no particular order:

1. Kylo’s scar moved for aesthetic reasons (RJ on twitter)
2. Rose and Finn will be together (every interview of them ever, TLJ panel)
3. Finn and Rey just had a friendship (JB interview)
4. Luke is unstable/dark (trailer, MSW leaks)
5. Rey reunion with Luke won’t be sunshine and daisies (Daisy in TLJ panel)
6. Kylo goes to Ach-To (MSW, airport pictures)
7. Kylo was conflicted in killing Han (JJ commentary)
8. Kylo is vulnerable (Swdatabase.com)
9. Kylo and Rey have a connection/found the force together (Swdatabase.com, Daisy interview)
10. Rey is not related to Luke (um, THE MOVIE/Daisy says he has no idea who she is, JJ press conference)
11. They’re hiding Kylo (we’ve seen him but not heard from him/Adam)
12. Ben was not evil from birth (Bloodline, Aftermath)
13. Finn is a big deal…in the Resistance and not destined to be a jedi (JB in TLJ panel)
14. Rey’s hair will be down showing her maturity into womanhood after her TFA duel with Kylo (infamous box)
15. Rey wearing more grey/darker color clothing (infamous ornament/box)
16. The Jedi concept evolving (Luke, "Time for the Jedi to end" and lore)
17. Tree of knowledge/books/journal of whills(?) (trailer)
18. Kylo having a more mobile costume
19. Kylo depicted as a sort of prince (JJ commentary)
20. Rey never trained at Luke’s academy (Daisy said they've never met)
21. Kylo’s scar wouldn’t be horrific, he’s not blind, no sith eyes (trailer, teaser poster, Battlefront promo)
22. Yin/yang, balance of light and dark in Rey and Kylo (trailer "the light, the darkness, the balance")
23. Rey will be torn between Luke and Kylo (teaser poster, MSW leaks)
24. Han and Leia were not always present for Ben, but they weren't terrible parents (JJ commentary)
25. Luke is not the main character (Mark Hamil at the TLJ panel and other times)
26. Kylo has a villainous crush on Rey (Pablo says go with what we see in TFA, TV tropes, JJ commentary, the movie...)


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Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 8:54 pm

LOL, this is beautiful. I also made a small crossword with some of these + a few gloaty remarks. Because I'm like that.

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Post by Xylo Ren on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 8:57 pm

@FrolickingFizzgig wrote:LOL, this is beautiful. I also made a small crossword with some of these + a few gloaty remarks. Because I'm like that.

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LOL we're extra af and I love it Cool
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Post by snufkin on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:05 pm

Oh I like #12 on the crossword puzzle after some of the responses elsewhere that gave me flashbacks to being in school and getting into arguments in class. Off the top of my head because I like taxonomies:

3.5 Rey is not destined/intended to be a Strong Female Character trope.
25.5 Leia will be brought into focus via the ST for her central role and impact on the Force Plot and legacy of the Jedi
26.5 The 'you need a teacher' offer is still on the table and will be a major part of the Ache-to plot



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Post by MeadowofAshes on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:10 pm

17.5 Rey and Ben are the Adam and Eve of the New Jedi
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Post by IoJovi on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:23 pm

I maybe had too much to drink at dinner but what the heck is the answer to 12 across?
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Post by ReyofLightSide on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:23 pm

Rey is not a Solo [yet] (anyone with eyes; Daisy interview where she states "Have you seen the movie??")
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Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:29 pm

@IoJovi wrote:I maybe had too much to drink at dinner but what the heck is the answer to 12 across?
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Post by IoJovi on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:30 pm

@FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:I maybe had too much to drink at dinner but what the heck is the answer to 12 across?
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"Pointless" Laughing
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That's perfect. Thank you!!!
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Post by Xylo Ren on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:42 pm

Great half-posts guys! Here's some more I just remembered:

27. Jyn is not Rey's mom (RO, Felicity, lol)
28. They were just rocks on Ach-To, not Rey's mom's grave (PABLO)
29. Leia did not cheat on Han and have Rey with someone else (PABLO...and duh)
30. Lucasfilm uses elements of mythology, literary tropes, and foreshadowing (George Lucas and Pablo)
31. Luke temple burning and Rey being left on Jakku are completely unrelated (Pablo)
32. Starkiller Base was a metaphor for Kylo (JJ commentary)
33. SNOKE IS NOT PLAGUEIS (Pablo)
*adding Rey of Light side*
34. Rey is not a Solo (Daisy's ET interview)
35. Rey and Kylo's duel in TFA had sexual undertones:
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Post by IoJovi on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:44 pm

36. Pablo stating Kylo's sexuality can be determined by watching TFA (and no, he's not into Hux!)
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Post by MeadowofAshes on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:47 pm

@Xylo Ren I had nearly forgotten about that lovely JJ quote. God bless you. Hey
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Post by Helix on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:49 pm

That really makes it sound like J.J. is writing his fanfic. Laughing
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Post by MeadowofAshes on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:52 pm

@Helix wrote:That really makes it sound like J.J. is writing his fanfic. Laughing
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That, in fact, might be the most apt way of looking at the ST: JJ and Rian's smutty Star Wars fan fiction, starring Kylo Ren as JJ' s self-insert and Rey as his #dreamwoman.
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Post by Helix on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:56 pm

@MeadowofAshes wrote:
@Helix wrote:That really makes it sound like J.J. is writing his fanfic. Laughing
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That, in fact, might be the most apt way of looking at the ST: JJ and Rian's smutty Star Wars fan fiction, starring Kylo Ren as JJ' s self-insert and Rey as his #dreamwoman.
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Now I'm just imagining Kylo unmasking and under the helmet it's J.J.

That means we're definitely getting a kiss. Razz
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Post by IoJovi on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:17 pm

37. Hidden hearts in every Reylo scene. Kylo's eyes in the interrogation, hearts in the trees, and cliffside ❤️.
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Post by snufkin on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:26 pm

Oh wait, another one. When they say that it'll be like ESB, they don't mean it literally. More like how they hired a writer/director who is like the writers and director for that movie. Known for writing stories that focus more on the emotional lives of the characters and which explore deeper emotional/philosophical themes through the story being told. Also possibly more in line with the spirit of Irving Kershner's comment to Wired Magazine that he wasn't interested in making a space opera, he wanted to tell a Fairy Tale.
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Post by IoJovi on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:27 pm

38. Oh my gosh how could I forget this gem. I walked by this sweet little advertisement at SWC and took a picture. Subtle, Disney. Real subtle...


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Post by Helix on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:37 pm

@IoJovi wrote:38. Oh my gosh how could I forget this gem. I walked by this sweet little advertisement at SWC and took a picture. Subtle, Disney. Real subtle...


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It's like that thing about Disney and subliminal messages. Everything goes through the House of Mouse to be approved at some point.
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Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:41 pm

@Helix wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:38. Oh my gosh how could I forget this gem. I walked by this sweet little advertisement at SWC and took a picture. Subtle, Disney. Real subtle...


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It's like that thing about Disney and subliminal messages. Everything goes through the House of Mouse to be approved at some point.
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Except TFA's novelization. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post by Darth_Awakened on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 1:36 am

Great stuff @Xylo Ren and @FrolickingFizzgig

Don't know if it was mentioned:

- Rey and Finn won't spent time together in TLJ, holding hands and running across the space.
- Kylo not becoming Vader 2.0. after killing Han
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Post by EchoBase on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 2:02 am

39. Working title space bear stands for panda bear which stands for yin and yang, light and dark. And anyone remember this thread?
https://twitter.com/mrs_moog/status/757956041736871936 Wink.
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Post by Darth_Awakened on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 2:50 am

- Rey and Kylo finding "something" together while dueling (Daisy's "ups - I shouldn't have said that" FB Q&A interview)
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Post by SanghaRen on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 4:49 am

On Larry King, when asked what aspect of Kylo Ren he was most excited for fans to see in the next film, AD's first answer was "humanity". He then moved on discussions he had with the directors (JJ and Rian) about terrorism and how both sides feel justified to do whatever because they think they are right. Does not spell Kylo = Vader 2.0 in the next movie and good vs evil is clear cut to me. AD also mentions being wary of anyone claiming to be right in another interview about the US elections. Gray territories...

For now, I'd say that the poster is like the biggest confirmation to date of us reading the story right. I have a big grin on my face every time I look at it. Big angry Luke, big human Kylo, Rey joining them with a lightsaber that looks crossguard and a red background. But what are these 3 doing together and in this layout? I don't understand. Kylo should have been all small in a corner with his helmet on looking menacing and Luke all shiny knight with Rey and Finn ready to strike him. I just can't  Laughing I would have loved to see some faces when they first saw it. Big jab.
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Post by MoonFyre on Sat 22 Apr 2017, 5:27 am

@IoJovi wrote:38.  Oh my gosh how could I forget this gem.  I walked by this sweet little advertisement at SWC and took a picture.  Subtle, Disney.  Real subtle...


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Come to think about it, they're not really subtle when they market Kylo's redemption and Kylo/Rey like this:







Lol these are kind of like sledgehammers.
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