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Post by panki on Sun 11 Jun - 13:55

@spacebaby45678 wrote:With everything else set to happen in TLJ, Rey is going to build a saber?  Why? when LF has just made a big deal out of naming Anakin's saber,
"Rey's Saber"......
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All jedi without exception go through the ritual of constructing their own lightsaber as part of the training process - everyone goes through it and the Heir to the Jedi novel goes through a lot of trouble explaining how Luke learned the art of lightsaber construction as part of his learning to become a jedi so am sure Rey will go through the same.

LF marketing has called the legacy lightsaber 'Rey's lightsaber' but that doesn't mean she will not learn the art of constructing one for herself as part of her training and own a second lightsaber. As PH has said, we don't know if the legacy lightsaber is going to become her own lightsaber or whether it has to be taken back to Luke....and even if it is hers, she could always possess a second lightsaber like Ahsoka.

“In The Force Awakens, Maz says that the saber is calling to Rey now. Whether or not it’s literally calling to her to become hers or it’s calling to her because she knows it will be taken back to Luke—we’ll see,” Hidalgo hints.

Either way, the blade is no longer considered Anakin’s lightsaber by the Lucasfilm marketing department. It has now officially been dubbed “Rey’s.”


http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/05/27/star-wars-the-last-jedi-anakin-skywalker-blue-lightsaber-belongs/

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Post by spacebaby45678 on Sun 11 Jun - 14:01

@panki wrote:
@spacebaby45678 wrote:With everything else set to happen in TLJ, Rey is going to build a saber?  Why? when LF has just made a big deal out of naming Anakin's saber,
"Rey's Saber"......
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All jedi without exception go through the ritual of constructing their own lightsaber as part of the training process - everyone goes through it and the Heir to the Jedi novel goes through a lot of trouble explaining how Luke learned the art of lightsaber construction as part of his learning to become a jedi so am sure Rey will go through the same.

LF marketing has called the legacy lightsaber 'Rey's lightsaber' but that doesn't mean she will not learn the art of constructing one for herself as part of her training and own a second lightsaber. As PH has said, we don't know if the legacy lightsaber is going to become her own lightsaber or whether it has to be taken back to Luke....and even if it is hers, she could always possess a second lightsaber like Ahsoka.

“In The Force Awakens, Maz says that the saber is calling to Rey now. Whether or not it’s literally calling to her to become hers or it’s calling to her because she knows it will be taken back to Luke—we’ll see,” Hidalgo hints.

Either way, the blade is no longer considered Anakin’s lightsaber by the Lucasfilm marketing department. It has now officially been dubbed “Rey’s.”


http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/05/27/star-wars-the-last-jedi-anakin-skywalker-blue-lightsaber-belongs/
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Oh I don't doubt that Rey will ultimately make her own saber.. that is not the point, if you know what I mean? Oh never mind.
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Post by kroi on Sun 11 Jun - 22:46

Probably fake but some of it sounds legit... French anon leaks plotpoints on 4chan: https://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/83806420
Nevermind someone already posted in the 'crack' thread...
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors (the "now it's permanent" spoilers thread)

Post by SheLitAFire on Mon 12 Jun - 0:11

@ISeeAnIsland wrote:MOD UPDATE: The previous spoilers thread was lost in a server gitch (per skyforum support). There's no easy/feasible way to recover the thread without losing a ton of posts in other threads, so this thread is now the permanent home for spoiler discussion.
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors (the "now it's permanent" spoilers thread)

Post by ISeeAnIsland on Mon 12 Jun - 18:46

I was reading this article about the 10th anniversary of The Sopranos finale, and I came across an interesting quote about a pivotal scene that the producers didn't want leaked and spoiled, so it was shot two ways, solely to keep the final outcome a secret until it aired.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/06/12/the-sopranos-adriana-death/

Drea DeMatteo wrote:De Matteo: David came to me and said, “I’m going to shoot this two ways: I’m going to kill you and I’m going to let you live. And nobody’s going to know until it airs.” I’m like, “Okay, I’m dying, for sure, but why shoot it two ways?” He said one reason was he wasn’t sure what he wanted to do, and the other was to keep confidentiality on set. He would go that far to divert the crew from being able to leak anything.

We all know now that when it was shot, only a few people knew that Vader was going to tell Luke that he was his father. Seeing that even The Sopranos went to the trouble of shooting alternate versions of scenes, I wonder how much of this sort of thing went on with TLJ (if any) given some of the contradictory spoilers that have come out.
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Post by IoJovi on Mon 12 Jun - 18:55

@ISeeAnIsland wrote:I was reading this article about the 10th anniversary of The Sopranos finale, and I came across an interesting quote about a pivotal scene that the producers didn't want leaked and spoiled, so it was shot two ways, solely to keep the final outcome a secret until it aired.

http://ew.com/tv/2017/06/12/the-sopranos-adriana-death/

Drea DeMatteo wrote:De Matteo: David came to me and said, “I’m going to shoot this two ways: I’m going to kill you and I’m going to let you live. And nobody’s going to know until it airs.” I’m like, “Okay, I’m dying, for sure, but why shoot it two ways?” He said one reason was he wasn’t sure what he wanted to do, and the other was to keep confidentiality on set. He would go that far to divert the crew from being able to leak anything.

We all know now that when it was shot, only a few people knew that Vader was going to tell Luke that he was his father. Seeing that even The Sopranos went to the trouble of shooting alternate versions of scenes, I wonder how much of this sort of thing went on with TLJ (if any) given some of the contradictory spoilers that have come out.
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Wow that is fascinating. And I can't believe this week is the 10th anniversary of the last episode of the Sopranos. It seems like yesterday!

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this is what Disney was going. They spent I think a total of five million dollars to keep things tight lipped so it doesn't shock me at what a hard time MSW (or anybody for that matter) is having at gaining actual concrete spoilers. All they've gotten so far is aesthetics, costumes and ships, etc. And heck, they can't even get their interpretation of the costumes right. (Vader cape, anyone?).
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Mon 12 Jun - 19:20

The Elite Praetorian Guard are apparently a big enough deal to be featured on the cans for some sort of vitamin drink:

http://makingstarwars.net/2017/06/another-look-at-the-elite-praetorian-guards-from-star-wars-the-last-jedi-and-more/

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors (the "now it's permanent" spoilers thread)

Post by spacebaby45678 on Tue 13 Jun - 8:16

@spacebaby45678 wrote:
@panki wrote:
@spacebaby45678 wrote:With everything else set to happen in TLJ, Rey is going to build a saber?  Why? when LF has just made a big deal out of naming Anakin's saber,
"Rey's Saber"......
@spacebaby45678

All jedi without exception go through the ritual of constructing their own lightsaber as part of the training process - everyone goes through it and the Heir to the Jedi novel goes through a lot of trouble explaining how Luke learned the art of lightsaber construction as part of his learning to become a jedi so am sure Rey will go through the same.

LF marketing has called the legacy lightsaber 'Rey's lightsaber' but that doesn't mean she will not learn the art of constructing one for herself as part of her training and own a second lightsaber. As PH has said, we don't know if the legacy lightsaber is going to become her own lightsaber or whether it has to be taken back to Luke....and even if it is hers, she could always possess a second lightsaber like Ahsoka.

“In The Force Awakens, Maz says that the saber is calling to Rey now. Whether or not it’s literally calling to her to become hers or it’s calling to her because she knows it will be taken back to Luke—we’ll see,” Hidalgo hints.

Either way, the blade is no longer considered Anakin’s lightsaber by the Lucasfilm marketing department. It has now officially been dubbed “Rey’s.”


http://comicbook.com/starwars/2017/05/27/star-wars-the-last-jedi-anakin-skywalker-blue-lightsaber-belongs/
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Oh I don't doubt that Rey will ultimately make her own saber.. that is not the point, if you know what I mean? Oh never mind.
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Rey's 2nd saber does not have an emitter like Luke's... so Confus Confus


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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors (the "now it's permanent" spoilers thread)

Post by panki on Tue 13 Jun - 8:41

This makes me all the more convinced that Rey is building her own lightsaber since this game lightsaber lacks the blade emitter from Luke's lightsaber and the rear grip from Obi-wan's lightsaber....I think its a lot more exciting for Rey to make her own destiny and not have to live in the shadow of ancestors.

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Post by spacebaby45678 on Tue 13 Jun - 8:55

Pretty sure that is a schematic of Obi Wan's and I am not the only one who thinks so. It could just be a shorthand way of explaining lineage. When Rey makes her own, why not make it something special like a double bladed saber, that suits her life skills so much better and it would be BASAZZ
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Post by panki on Tue 13 Jun - 9:05

I am going by the technical specifications of the lightsaber and not hearsay...and the rear grip is a big piece of that lightsaber, not some tiny insignificant portion - if you check the rear of the hilt of Obi-wan's lightsaber, the ribbed portion is the rear grip.

In the novel Heir of the Jedi, we find out that dismantling the hilt of a lightsaber could damage the crystal and it is impossible to put the lightsaber back together.....so it would be ridiculous for Rey to dismantle a lightsaber just to remove one piece....hence, am 100% certain that is neither Luke nor Obi-wan's lightsaber.

And Rey could own the legacy lightsaber and make her own....in legends, didn't Mara Jade own the legacy lightsaber but make her own purple one?






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Post by spacebaby45678 on Tue 13 Jun - 9:09

It is a schematic not an exact representation obviously but, oh never mind Neutral
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Post by panki on Tue 13 Jun - 9:13

If we're getting into schematics, then why are we supposed to look at that tiny blade emitter as proof of identity? One can argue that is also missing because it is not an 'exact representation'.

If we look at the legacy lightsaber in the game design, the ribbed grip of the lightsaber is visible....if the new lightsaber was Obi-wan's lightsaber, the ribbed rear grip would also be depicted. since the designers seem to have no issue showing a ribbed design in the legacy lightsaber in the same game.



Even Maul's lightsaber in the game is shown in great detail, including every switch and partition.


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Post by Geralt_Riv on Tue 13 Jun - 10:32

Rey's lightsaber is simillar to both: Luke's and Obi Wan's lightsabers. But it is also different from both. I think that she will make her own lightsaber and this is the one.

You are right @panki. Mara Jade has two lightsabers: the legacy saber and the purple one which she made herself.

In the Hair of the Jedi, Luke deconstructed Huulik's lightsaber and couldn't put the lightsaber back together. He learned that the Jedi needed to use the Force when aligning the kyber crystals.
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Post by ZioRen on Tue 13 Jun - 13:13

I'm still not sure why we're putting so much stock in this tiny video game detail that could be a mistake or just a game mechanic that has nothing to do with TLJ's story. Sorry, but I feel like I missed a memo. Was this confirmed as something legitimate by someone working on the game?
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Post by IoJovi on Tue 13 Jun - 13:20

@ZioRen wrote:I'm still not sure why we're putting so much stock in this tiny video game detail that could be a mistake or just a game mechanic that has nothing to do with TLJ's story. Sorry, but I feel like I missed a memo. Was this confirmed as something legitimate by someone working on the game?
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I'm of the same mindset. There is absolutely no way the writers are going to spoiler one of the biggest mysteries of this trilogy, Rey's parentage, through a videogame a month before the movie comes out. No way, and you can't tell me that this just happened to slip through the cracks.

Sure, it's cool to speculate and have some fun with it - there's nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't dive too deep with it though.

As far as Rey building her own lightsaber, I love the idea. We've never seen this before and it's be completely new to the franchise, even if it has been covered in other media outside the movies. I don't really think it would take up that much screen time and at the same time it's be informative and interesting.
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Post by Xylo Ren on Tue 13 Jun - 20:17

I bet it's a feature of the game to just pick your own weapon or whatever. They're not going to spoil her parentage in a video game.

On the same token, saying she's Obi Wan's just because she has his lightsaber is exactly what the Reywalkers argue...so...let's just wait and see like Pablo said.
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Post by IoJovi on Tue 13 Jun - 20:22

@Xylo Ren wrote:I bet it's a feature of the game to just pick your own weapon or whatever. They're not going to spoil her parentage in a video game.

On the same token, saying she's Obi Wan's just because she has his lightsaber is exactly what the Reywalkers argue...so...let's just wait and see like Pablo said.
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This is kind of what I was thinking, as far as being able to switch out lightsabers, but I wasn't sure as there seem to be folks more knowledgeable about this game than I am. Laughing

Good point too with the Reywalker comparison. I'm not against Rey Kenobi in the least bit, but I'm open to any parentage explanation as long it feels organic with the story and not tacked on as an after-thought.
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Post by DarthRen on Wed 14 Jun - 5:28

@IoJovi wrote:
@Xylo Ren wrote:I bet it's a feature of the game to just pick your own weapon or whatever. They're not going to spoil her parentage in a video game.

On the same token, saying she's Obi Wan's just because she has his lightsaber is exactly what the Reywalkers argue...so...let's just wait and see like Pablo said.
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This is kind of what I was thinking, as far as being able to switch out lightsabers, but I wasn't sure as there seem to be folks more knowledgeable about this game than I am. Laughing

Good point too with the Reywalker comparison. I'm not against Rey Kenobi in the least bit, but I'm open to any parentage explanation as long it feels organic with the story and not tacked on as an after-thought.
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If Rey is a Skywalker like I don't think she is, Reylo won't be romantic because incest is not part of Star Wars lore. Bar that any of the other options could be good and romantic Reylo to be done on the screen.
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Post by Helix on Wed 14 Jun - 6:53

Considering EA's rep on certain matters, it doesn't surprise me they would show a bug on screen at E3. Laughing At least there's still plenty of time between this and the game release.
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Post by ZioRen on Wed 14 Jun - 12:39

Who knows, the game developers could have done that on purpose if they knew anything about the fandom. I wouldn't put it past them! Laughing
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Post by IoJovi on Wed 14 Jun - 12:41

@ZioRen wrote:Who knows, the game developers could have done that on purpose if they knew anything about the fandom. I wouldn't put it past them! Laughing
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I wouldn't put it past them. I'm certain they know how to get people talking, and if that's what they want, this is how it's done! Laughing
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Wed 14 Jun - 12:42

@ZioRen wrote:Who knows, the game developers could have done that on purpose if they knew anything about the fandom. I wouldn't put it past them! Laughing
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That's a really good point. If their devs are anything like the devs that I know, I could very well see one of them intentionally using that image as a placeholder (especially if he/she is a Rey Kenobi-ist). I know that the demo versions of the software that I've worked on tend to be full of Simpsons/Star Wars/Game of Thrones/Breaking Bad references that are never intended to be publicly viewed.
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