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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Mon 3 Jul - 13:39

@Helix wrote:The monster should've been a Graboid. Rey could've teamed up with Burt Gummer and tamed a Graboid.
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Haha. I'm glad that I wasn't the only person who immediately thought of Tremors while watching that. In fact, I bet that there's no way that they didn't at least have Tremors in mind when they wrote that.

Very cute, BTW.
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Post by Helix on Mon 3 Jul - 13:49

I had the worst mental image of a SW fanboy lecturing little girls buying Forces of Destiny dolls in stores about how it's not the 'right' kind of SW, but then I realized that probably would happen.
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Post by snufkin on Mon 3 Jul - 13:55

USA Today

It manages to capture what made Rey great in the film: She is smart and strong, but also patient and kind, in that short time, and also lets her show off some new moves.

@Helix oh they're in the comments section already, complaining about how it should be "proper" animation. And when being told to settle down because it's not meant for them, getting defensive. Maybe the collecting part is why some of them get so missish about it. Like if it's geared towards girls, collector bros can't handle the idea of collecting stuff that might look more like dolls.

Ha so now looking at the Monstah, I'm reminded of @Darth Dingbat comparing the Rathtars to Vagina Dentata. More proof that SW is enduring an evil female takeover!
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Post by vaderito on Mon 3 Jul - 14:00

[quote="snufkin"]

I was kinda having some flashbacks to Dune watching the Monstah,
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It isn't just you. I see lots of talk about it all over the Internet.

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Post by Helix on Mon 3 Jul - 14:04

@snufkin wrote:USA Today

It manages to capture what made Rey great in the film: She is smart and strong, but also patient and kind, in that short time, and also lets her show off some new moves.

@Helix oh they're in the comments section already, complaining about how it should be "proper" animation. And when being told to settle down because it's not meant for them, getting defensive. Maybe the collecting part is why some of them get so missish about it. Like if it's geared towards girls, collector bros can't handle the idea of collecting stuff that might look more like dolls.

Ha so now looking at the Monstah, I'm reminded of @Darth Dingbat comparing the Rathtars to Vagina Dentata. More proof that SW is enduring an evil female takeover!
@snufkin

The ST is a stealth sequel to the movie Teeth.

They hate that the new toys in general are 5 points of articulation instead of super articulation like 2007-2012 era of SW toys. I follow enough collectors sites to see the endless complaining, although most of those sites just acknowledge FoD as a thing that exists and don't really complain, but I don't look in their comments. Which is surprising since at least one of those sites is owned by the biggest man baby alive who probably would lecture little girls on FoD in person, or any kid buying 'inferior' SW toys.
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Post by vaderito on Mon 3 Jul - 14:36

TFA:





TLJ:

Rey has a sequence on Ahch-To where she fights a rather large sea monster (we have also heard she wears a black cloak during this sequence over the costume we described before). It has been suggested but not confirmed that Rey’s besting of the sea monster grants her permission to be at the sacred location by the “puffins.” However, the sequences could be totally unrelated.

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/12/rumors-star-wars-episode-viii-and-the-protectors-of-ahch-to/
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/06/a-closer-look-at-the-ahch-to-sea-creature-from-star-wars-the-last-jedi.html

Forces of Destiny: Sands of Jakku



That's a lot of monsters for Rey. She was kind to Sandworm, "besting" the TLJ one doesn't indicate a kill either, but what about Her Monstah?

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Post by reylo1992 on Mon 3 Jul - 17:24

@vaderito wrote:TFA:





TLJ:

Rey has a sequence on Ahch-To where she fights a rather large sea monster (we have also heard she wears a black cloak during this sequence over the costume we described before). It has been suggested but not confirmed that Rey’s besting of the sea monster grants her permission to be at the sacred location by the “puffins.” However, the sequences could be totally unrelated.

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/12/rumors-star-wars-episode-viii-and-the-protectors-of-ahch-to/
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/06/a-closer-look-at-the-ahch-to-sea-creature-from-star-wars-the-last-jedi.html

Forces of Destiny: Sands of Jakku



That's a lot of monsters for Rey. She was kind to Sandworm, "besting" the TLJ one doesn't indicate a kill either, but what about Her Monstah?

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What you're pointing there is so interesting. There was someone on this forum who made the suggestion that maybe Rey could be saved by the sea monster while drowning into the ocean. Let's assume that this happens what if she would be saved because instead of killing the monster during her test she would have actually  "tamed" it and sort of become friend with it?  Then, she would have succeeded the test by proving that  she can live in harmony with the creatures of the island without endangering their lives. Plus, it could some nice foreshadowing of her relationship with Kylo going forward. My feeling is that one of the major arc of the ST is about misuse/exploitation of natural element on the one hand (i.e. the Sun in TFA) and living in harmony with nature on the other hand. The fate of the zillo death in CW already raised a big debate among the characters in this regard. Providing that Ben was already paralleled by the Sun (mis)used by the FO to charge their weapon, I think that the parallel with the monster Rey faces could perfectly makes sense.
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Post by SoloSideCousin on Mon 3 Jul - 17:28

@reylo1992 wrote:
@vaderito wrote:TFA:





TLJ:

Rey has a sequence on Ahch-To where she fights a rather large sea monster (we have also heard she wears a black cloak during this sequence over the costume we described before). It has been suggested but not confirmed that Rey’s besting of the sea monster grants her permission to be at the sacred location by the “puffins.” However, the sequences could be totally unrelated.

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/12/rumors-star-wars-episode-viii-and-the-protectors-of-ahch-to/
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/06/a-closer-look-at-the-ahch-to-sea-creature-from-star-wars-the-last-jedi.html

Forces of Destiny: Sands of Jakku



That's a lot of monsters for Rey. She was kind to Sandworm, "besting" the TLJ one doesn't indicate a kill either, but what about Her Monstah?

@vaderito

What you're pointing there is so interesting. There was someone on this forum who made the suggestion that maybe Rey could be saved by the sea monster while drowning into the ocean. Let's assume that this happens  what if she would be saved because instead of killing the monster during her test she would have actually  "tamed" it and sort of become friend with it?  Then, she would have succeeded the test by proving that  she can live in harmony with the creatures of the island without endangering their lives. Plus, it could some nice foreshadowing of her relationship with Kylo going forward. My feeling is that one of the major arc of the ST is about misuse/exploitation of natural element on the one hand (i.e. the Sun in TFA) and living in harmony with nature on the other hand. The fate of the zillo death in CW already raised a big debate among the characters in this regard. Providing that Ben was already paralleled by the Sun (mis)used by the FO to charge their weapon, I think that the parallel with the monster Rey faces could perfectly makes sense.
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Also to add to this, there was a whole episode in Rebels where Bendu teaches Kanan how to coexist with those giant spider things.
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Post by snufkin on Mon 3 Jul - 18:01

@Helix wrote:
@snufkin wrote:USA Today

It manages to capture what made Rey great in the film: She is smart and strong, but also patient and kind, in that short time, and also lets her show off some new moves.

@Helix oh they're in the comments section already, complaining about how it should be "proper" animation. And when being told to settle down because it's not meant for them, getting defensive. Maybe the collecting part is why some of them get so missish about it. Like if it's geared towards girls, collector bros can't handle the idea of collecting stuff that might look more like dolls.

Ha so now looking at the Monstah, I'm reminded of @Darth Dingbat comparing the Rathtars to Vagina Dentata. More proof that SW is enduring an evil female takeover!
@snufkin

The ST is a stealth sequel to the movie Teeth.

They hate that the new toys in general are 5 points of articulation instead of super articulation like 2007-2012 era of SW toys. I follow enough collectors sites to see the endless complaining, although most of those sites just acknowledge FoD as a thing that exists and don't really complain, but I don't look in their comments. Which is surprising since at least one of those sites is owned by the biggest man baby alive who probably would lecture little girls on FoD in person, or any kid buying 'inferior' SW toys.
@Helix


Hahaha! Geez, I can just imagine those dudes carrying on like how John McEnroe keeps trying to act like Serena Williams isn't GOAT.
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Post by Piper Maru on Mon 3 Jul - 18:24



I laughed so hard during this scene. Rey locking eyes with a monster, relating to his situation and feeling compassion for him. Oh god, I wonder when did that happen before Laughing

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Post by CienaRee on Mon 3 Jul - 18:29

@Piper Maru wrote:

I laughed so hard during this scene. Rey locking eyes with a monster, relating to his situation and feeling compassion for him. Oh god, I wonder when did that happen before Laughing

I love the smell of metaphors in the morning.
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Right?That moemnt was so sweet and Rey's freckles are just adorable.
Btw,is it just me or were they implying that Rey used the force a few times while trying to save BB8 because that's the impression I got but I could be wrong.

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Post by Piper Maru on Mon 3 Jul - 18:33

@CienaRee

She totally did. When the monster "ate" BB-8 and was hiding, she sensed their presence through the Force.
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Post by CienaRee on Mon 3 Jul - 18:35

@Piper Maru wrote:@CienaRee

She totally did. When the monster "ate" BB-8 and was hiding, she sensed their presence through the Force.
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Yup,which makes things really interesting because if TFA isn't the first time Rey's bene using the force then you have to wonder what awakening did Kyloa nd Snoke felt exactly.

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Post by vaderito on Mon 3 Jul - 18:53

@reylo1992 That's why I think that rey's biggest challenge is Kylo, not her parents as most fans think. She can feel compassion for a cute droid, a sand worm who was just following its natural instinct and a goofy deserter from FO, but her monstah Kylo is a different animal altogether. Can she do it? Especially if that goes against Luke's wishes.
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Post by Piper Maru on Mon 3 Jul - 19:00

Kylo is definitely a piece of work, but let's think together:

Rey is a hero. The main point of the archetype of the Hero is to show someone who is not like us, mere mortals. The Hero does the impossible. His/her actions defy the established rules and that's why he/she triumphs. Rey's main ability is to fix things. She's an expert in garbage and broken stuff. She's also VERY empathetic and feels compassion to random droids, creatures and people who lie to her face (Finn lied to her and yet she loved him anyway). This is her heroic behavior: she can see the good in others and actively help them. Even when it's improbable or impossible.

It's not by chance that in her heroic journey, her main antagonist is a broken man (I'M BEING TORN APAAAART), a "monster" and a "creature". Everyone tried to reach out to him and failed (Han, Leia, Luke) because he's f**ed up beyond recognition. He committed an atrocity (patricide) that is seemingly unforgivable. No one else can help him or forgive him. But oh, what a shock, the heroine has a mysterious connection with him and she's capable of fixing and forgiving anything.

Ehem
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Post by Moonlight13 on Mon 3 Jul - 19:03

@Piper Maru wrote:Kylo is definitely a piece of work, but let's think together:

Rey is a hero. The main point of the archetype of the Hero is to show someone who is not like us, mere mortals. The Hero does the impossible. His/her actions defy the established rules and that's why he/she triumphs. Rey's main ability is to fix things. She's an expert in garbage and broken stuff. She's also VERY empathetic and feels compassion to random droids, creatures and people who lie to her face (Finn lied to her and yet she loved him anyway). This is her heroic behavior: she can see the good in others and actively help them. Even when it's improbable or impossible.

It's not by chance that in her heroic journey, her main antagonist is a broken man (I'M BEING TORN APAAAART), a "monster" and a "creature". Everyone tried to reach out to him and failed (Han, Leia, Luke) because he's f**ed up beyond recognition. He committed an atrocity (patricide) that is seemingly unforgivable. No one else can help him or forgive him. But oh, what a shock, the heroine has a mysterious connection with him and she's capable of fixing and forgiving anything.

Ehem
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Mon 3 Jul - 19:13

@Piper Maru wrote:@CienaRee

She totally did. When the monster "ate" BB-8 and was hiding, she sensed their presence through the Force.
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Yup, I'm pretty sure that she was using the Force without realizing it. Hence, the line about being "lucky".

So, apparently, her Force powers weren't completely muted while on Jakku.
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Post by vaderito on Mon 3 Jul - 19:52

@Piper Maru wrote:Kylo is definitely a piece of work, but let's think together:

Rey is a hero. The main point of the archetype of the Hero is to show someone who is not like us, mere mortals. The Hero does the impossible. His/her actions defy the established rules and that's why he/she triumphs. Rey's main ability is to fix things. She's an expert in garbage and broken stuff. She's also VERY empathetic and feels compassion to random droids, creatures and people who lie to her face (Finn lied to her and yet she loved him anyway). This is her heroic behavior: she can see the good in others and actively help them. Even when it's improbable or impossible.

It's not by chance that in her heroic journey, her main antagonist is a broken man (I'M BEING TORN APAAAART), a "monster" and a "creature". Everyone tried to reach out to him and failed (Han, Leia, Luke) because he's f**ed up beyond recognition. He committed an atrocity (patricide) that is seemingly unforgivable. No one else can help him or forgive him. But oh, what a shock, the heroine has a mysterious connection with him and she's capable of fixing and forgiving anything.

Ehem
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this is quoted for truth and explain why only the hero(ine) can reach Kylo, not his mom as some fans think. Family is the reason why he's where he is, it takes a champion from the outside to connect with him.
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Post by Guest on Mon 3 Jul - 20:43

@Piper Maru wrote:Kylo is definitely a piece of work, but let's think together:

Rey is a hero. The main point of the archetype of the Hero is to show someone who is not like us, mere mortals. The Hero does the impossible. His/her actions defy the established rules and that's why he/she triumphs. Rey's main ability is to fix things. She's an expert in garbage and broken stuff. She's also VERY empathetic and feels compassion to random droids, creatures and people who lie to her face (Finn lied to her and yet she loved him anyway). This is her heroic behavior: she can see the good in others and actively help them. Even when it's improbable or impossible.

It's not by chance that in her heroic journey, her main antagonist is a broken man (I'M BEING TORN APAAAART), a "monster" and a "creature". Everyone tried to reach out to him and failed (Han, Leia, Luke) because he's f**ed up beyond recognition. He committed an atrocity (patricide) that is seemingly unforgivable. No one else can help him or forgive him. But oh, what a shock, the heroine has a mysterious connection with him and she's capable of fixing and forgiving anything.

Ehem
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So true. I agree completely.

Rey is a heroine; people who want her to just hate Kylo forever and kill him clearly have no concept of what heroism actually means especially in a story like Star Wars. It's not about striking down your enemy but saving them through compassion and forgiveness.

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Post by vaderito on Tue 4 Jul - 11:05

LOL, poked my head into Sands of Jakku YT comments board. LOL and Yikes. But this is good:

Not trying to sound rude or anything.....but what exactly was the point of this? I see no logical reason why this needs to be considered canon.


LOL, some fans just don't get it why Rey having compassion for a monster needs to be canon. In fact, some fans don't get the point of SoJ episode at all.
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Post by Moonlight13 on Tue 4 Jul - 11:39

@vaderito wrote:LOL, poked my head into Sands of Jakku YT comments board. LOL and Yikes. But this is good:

Not trying to sound rude or anything.....but what exactly was the point of this? I see no logical reason why this needs to be considered canon.


LOL, some fans just don't get it why Rey having compassion for a monster needs to be canon. In fact, some fans don't get the point of SoJ episode at all.
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Post by Armadeus on Tue 4 Jul - 11:53

@vaderito wrote:LOL, poked my head into Sands of Jakku YT comments board. LOL and Yikes. But this is good:

Not trying to sound rude or anything.....but what exactly was the point of this? I see no logical reason why this needs to be considered canon.


LOL, some fans just don't get it why Rey having compassion for a monster needs to be canon. In fact, some fans don't get the point of SoJ episode at all.
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Lucasfilm:

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Post by vaderito on Tue 4 Jul - 11:55

@Armadeus wrote:


Lucasfilm:

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lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
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Post by snufkin on Tue 4 Jul - 12:42

New one is up on Daily Motion. And besides the willfully obtuse complaints (when they've all but issued a PR release saying part of the point is showing that the franchise is for everybody) best would be the ones claiming how it proves that Rey is "like her father" trying to rescue a droid kidnapped by a hungry monster

Spoiler:
Picking up where we left off in the first short, Rey gets ready to take BB-8 to Niima Outpost, but there are other scavengers who desperately want to get their hands on the small droid.

Ready to defend him with her life, Rey begins the chase and demonstrates how quickly she can think on her toes. What I also love most about this short is that she doesn’t hold a grudge against the nightwatcher worm. Instead, she knows she can use the creature to her advantage. She also doesn’t resort to violence. Rey knows there are other ways to defuse a dangerous situation that don’t involve shooting or throwing fists, proving once again how she’s able to think outside the box.

With Teedo off their backs, Rey is able to take BB-8 to Niima Outpost. There, Unkar Plutt gives her an overwhelming pile of ration packs, but they’ll be hers only if she gives BB-8 over to him. She looks back at the droid, and in that moment, you can now factor in these mini adventures. Their encounter with the nightwatcher worm as well as with Teedo’s bandits helped her form a bond with the lovable droid. Instead of taking the food she needs to survive, she decides to take BB-8—and the rest of The Force Awakens continues on from there.
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Star Wars Forces Of Destiny - Episode 2 - BB-8... by direct-matin

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Guess who comes to her aid when she's cornered by Teedo? None other than the monstah she'd shown compassion to
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Post by Darth_Awakened on Tue 4 Jul - 14:40

The plot thickens!

Rey and the Monstah are partners now!
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