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Post by IoJovi on Wed 5 Jul - 20:00

@vaderito wrote:Kesinger is commissioning anything that his clients ask him. Reylo, Soloist, anything. You don't believe that he actually knows where the story is going, do you? So when someone commissions a Reylo art, that means absolutely nothing, just like commissioning Soloist art doesn't mean anything. In fact, I'd love to commission a Reywalker art cause he didn't draw Luke yet and because I want to see what he makes of cousins. Very Happy
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It was a joke.  Commission or not, he does a literal ton of Reylo centered pieces.  I was at least thinking that's where he believes the story is headed.

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Post by Moonlight13 on Wed 5 Jul - 20:06

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lol! I was just joking. Obviously he doesn't know where the story is headed (at least I don't think he does). Nope
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Post by vaderito on Wed 5 Jul - 20:07

@IoJovi wrote:  

It was a joke.  Commission or not, he does a literal ton of Reylo centered pieces.  I was at least thinking that's where he thinks the story is headed.
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I think he just finds Lil Kylo and Lil Rey more inspiring for cartoons cause they have perfect Tom&Jerry other Adversary&Adversary cartoon dynamic. He draws Kylo a lot or at least I'm seeing his cartoons all the time. he's a fun character.
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Post by IoJovi on Wed 5 Jul - 20:10

@vaderito wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:  

It was a joke.  Commission or not, he does a literal ton of Reylo centered pieces.  I was at least thinking that's where he thinks the story is headed.
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I think he just finds Lil Kylo and Lil Rey more inspiring for cartoons cause they have perfect Tom&Jerry other Adversary&Adversary cartoon dynamic. He draws Kylo a lot or at least I'm seeing his cartoons all the time. he's a fun character.
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Says the guy who loves drawing Kylo drawing a heart that says, REY, I HATE YOU. Laughing

Tom and Jerry to my knowledge never did that. Wink

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Post by vaderito on Wed 5 Jul - 20:13

@IoJovi wrote:  

Says the guy who loves drawing Kylo drawing a heart that says, REY, I HATE YOU.  Laughing

Tom and Jerry to my knowledge never did that.  Wink
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Well, if his client wanted Valentine Kylo... Very Happy
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Post by Helix on Wed 5 Jul - 20:59

Reminds me of the opening of Deadly Premonition where the protagonist explains Tom & Jerry's relationship as being akin to a BDSM relationship. My explanation doesn't do it justice. Laughing
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Post by SoloSideCousin on Wed 5 Jul - 21:06

@IoJovi wrote:
@vaderito wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:  

It was a joke.  Commission or not, he does a literal ton of Reylo centered pieces.  I was at least thinking that's where he thinks the story is headed.
@IoJovi

I think he just finds Lil Kylo and Lil Rey more inspiring for cartoons cause they have perfect Tom&Jerry other Adversary&Adversary cartoon dynamic. He draws Kylo a lot or at least I'm seeing his cartoons all the time. he's a fun character.
@vaderito

Says the guy who loves drawing Kylo drawing a heart that says, REY, I HATE YOU. Laughing

Tom and Jerry to my knowledge never did that. Wink
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Yeah, a Soloist may have wanted it, but that picture can be interpreted in a very Reylo way ... like Rey and Kylo have made progress from the "throw snowballs at you" stage to the "well ... you can come over ... if you want" stage. Very Happy

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Post by SanghaRen on Wed 5 Jul - 21:17

@vaderito wrote:Kesinger is commissioning anything that his clients ask him. Reylo, Soloist, anything. You don't believe that he actually knows where the story is going, do you? So when someone commissions a Reylo art, that means absolutely nothing, just like commissioning Soloist art doesn't mean anything. In fact, I'd love to commission a Reywalker art cause he didn't draw Luke yet and because I want to see what he makes of cousins. Very Happy
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If that led anyone to seriously think he was voicing his opinion or had insider information on the story, my bad. I thought everyone knew his work is commissioned. I do like how cute he draws Kylo and Rey so I enjoy all his commissioned lil'Kylo and lil'Rey. He did a couple of drawings of Luke, not with Rey though. I can remember one with OB1 and one with Kylo bringing him Vader's helmet for a Show & Tell at the "Jedi Academy". I would think that he'd avoid to specifically call them cousins or brother and sister to avoid any issue in the future. But then he did draw Kylo and Rey with mistletoe which surprised me a bit because I thought his drawings were quite neutral until then. So maybe he would draw them as cousins. I am surprised no one has asked him yet for a drawing of Luke and his precious daughter and naughty nephew. I mean one where Reywalker is crystal clear. How much does a commission cost? I am also curious now if he'd do it... Smile


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Post by Darth Dingbat on Wed 5 Jul - 21:18

@vaderito wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:  

Says the guy who loves drawing Kylo drawing a heart that says, REY, I HATE YOU.  Laughing

Tom and Jerry to my knowledge never did that.  Wink
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Well, if his client wanted Valentine Kylo... Very Happy
@vaderito

The Valentine's Kylo actually wasn't a commission. He's done many Reylo-ish Lil Kylo pieces that weren't commissions because Lil Kylo started out as a Calvin & Hobbes mash-up, after all - he sees Lil Kylo as Calvin and Rey as Susie.

Of course he doesn't know which way the story's headed, but I would hazard a guess the Calvin/Susie comparison wouldn't have occurred to him if he didn't see at least something of what we've seen.
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Post by IoJovi on Wed 5 Jul - 21:22

@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@vaderito wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:  

Says the guy who loves drawing Kylo drawing a heart that says, REY, I HATE YOU.  Laughing

Tom and Jerry to my knowledge never did that.  Wink
@IoJovi

Well, if his client wanted Valentine Kylo... Very Happy
@vaderito

The Valentine's Kylo actually wasn't a commission. He's done many Reylo-ish Lil Kylo pieces that weren't commissions because Lil Kylo started out as a Calvin & Hobbes mash-up, after all - he sees Lil Kylo as Calvin and Rey as Susie.

Of course he doesn't know which way the story's headed, but I would hazard a guess the Calvin/Susie comparison wouldn't have occurred to him if he didn't see at least something of what we've seen.
@Darth Dingbat

Exactly this. I just did a google image search on Brian Kesinger LilKylo and at first glance I counted at least 10 pieces with a Reylo vibe. He's got two different ones both involving mistletoe. I don't think theses were commissioned (at least it doesn't state that it is when I click on the pictures). My point is, you don't have to be a shippy fangirl to see Reylo as a plausible outcome.

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Post by SanghaRen on Wed 5 Jul - 21:36

@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@vaderito wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:  

Says the guy who loves drawing Kylo drawing a heart that says, REY, I HATE YOU.  Laughing

Tom and Jerry to my knowledge never did that.  Wink
@IoJovi

Well, if his client wanted Valentine Kylo... Very Happy
@vaderito

The Valentine's Kylo actually wasn't a commission. He's done many Reylo-ish Lil Kylo pieces that weren't commissions because Lil Kylo started out as a Calvin & Hobbes mash-up, after all - he sees Lil Kylo as Calvin and Rey as Susie.

Of course he doesn't know which way the story's headed, but I would hazard a guess the Calvin/Susie comparison wouldn't have occurred to him if he didn't see at least something of what we've seen.
@Darth Dingbat

Does he always say when it's commissioned? I guess he would out of courtesy to his customers. Yeah, the Calvin/Susie comparison is obvious. Even I, who barely know anything about Calvin & Hobbes, noticed it.

I still would not read anything into it personally. Most of you know my stance. It's again the case of everyone looking at something through different eyes. BK might indeed have Reyloish glasses on but until he comes out and say it, it's still everyone's guess. I enjoy the drawings and making jokes about it. For the rest we shall see in less than 6 months Very Happy
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Post by IoJovi on Wed 5 Jul - 21:47

@SanghaRen wrote:
@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@vaderito wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:  

Says the guy who loves drawing Kylo drawing a heart that says, REY, I HATE YOU.  Laughing

Tom and Jerry to my knowledge never did that.  Wink
@IoJovi

Well, if his client wanted Valentine Kylo... Very Happy
@vaderito

The Valentine's Kylo actually wasn't a commission. He's done many Reylo-ish Lil Kylo pieces that weren't commissions because Lil Kylo started out as a Calvin & Hobbes mash-up, after all - he sees Lil Kylo as Calvin and Rey as Susie.

Of course he doesn't know which way the story's headed, but I would hazard a guess the Calvin/Susie comparison wouldn't have occurred to him if he didn't see at least something of what we've seen.
@Darth Dingbat

Does he always say when it's commissioned? I guess he would out of courtesy to his customers. Yeah, the Calvin/Susie comparison is obvious. Even I, who barely know anything about Calvin & Hobbes, noticed it.

I still would not read anything into it personally. Most of you know my stance. It's again the case of everyone looking at something through different eyes. BK might indeed have Reyloish glasses on but until he comes out and say it, it's still everyone's guess. I enjoy the drawings and making jokes about it. For the rest we shall see in less than 6 months Very Happy
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Sure he's never outright come out and SAID he's pro-reylo, but his pictures (if they are non-commissioned) do convey a pretty on point message. I just wanted to have fun and run with it.

We're talking about a single (if not prolific) individual, so their interpretation has no bearing on the story. It's just fun to know they likely picked up on the same things we did.

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Post by SanghaRen on Wed 5 Jul - 21:52

Ok, I was wrong. He did a Luke-Rey as father and daughter. Commissioned. Someone sent him a pic of it. He must do a lot of commissioned stuff and post only some of them. Anyways.

https://twitter.com/aquamindy/status/876432878334337024
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Post by IoJovi on Wed 5 Jul - 21:55

@SanghaRen wrote:Ok, I was wrong. He did a Luke-Rey as father and daughter. Commissioned. Someone sent him a pic of it. He must do a lot of commissioned stuff and post only some of them. Anyways.

https://twitter.com/aquamindy/status/876432878334337024
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Oh my gosh, that's adorable even though I can't help but think of how disappointed they're going to be come December.. That honestly tears at my heart strings...

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Post by Moonlight13 on Wed 5 Jul - 22:07

@IoJovi wrote:
@SanghaRen wrote:Ok, I was wrong. He did a Luke-Rey as father and daughter. Commissioned. Someone sent him a pic of it. He must do a lot of commissioned stuff and post only some of them. Anyways.

https://twitter.com/aquamindy/status/876432878334337024
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Oh my gosh, that's adorable even though I can't help but think of how disappointed they're going to be come December..  That honestly tears at my heart strings...
@IoJovi

He can end up being a "father figure" even if he isn't her biological father. Maybe that's why Daisy said Luke would give her away if she ever gets married.
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Post by snufkin on Wed 5 Jul - 22:13

Funny enough, it Watterson's birthday today!



There's a sweet documentary about his fans called Dear Mr. Watterson that I saw a couple months back, highly recommended. No they don't get him on camera (he's a JD Salinger type of figure), but the jerk in me enjoyed the fact that his rival Berke Breathed is willing to show up about how much it drove him crazy that Watterson is so much more effortlessly a genius than he'll ever be (I like Bloom County, but it's always tried way too hard to be like Pogo).

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Post by Kessel on Wed 5 Jul - 22:43

@snufkin wrote:Funny enough, it Watterson's birthday today!



There's a sweet documentary about his fans called Dear Mr. Watterson that I saw a couple months back, highly recommended. No they don't get him on camera (he's a JD Salinger type of figure), but the jerk in me enjoyed the fact that his rival Berke Breathed is willing to show up about how much it drove him crazy that Watterson is so much more effortlessly a genius than he'll ever be (I like Bloom County, but it's always tried way too hard to be like Pogo).

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That's awesome, thanks for posting this! I love Calvin and Hobbes, such great memories. Smile

I'd love to commission something with Lil' Kylo and Lil' Rey from Kesinger. I bet there's a wait list though...
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Post by snufkin on Thu 6 Jul - 2:13

@Kessel - It's such an interesting contrast between Star Wars & Calvin and Hobbes because Watterson is steadfastly the opposite of Lucas. He only agreed to having books published and turned down the chance to do merchandising, which is where the $$$ is made. Also turned down Spielberg's request to do an animated movie of the strip. And when he reached a point where he felt that he'd have to compromise on quality with shrinking page margins for daily strips, he decided to wrap it up. There's something admirable about that, especially with Disney buying up so much of pop culture to keep churning out new products and theme parks.





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Post by rey09 on Thu 6 Jul - 2:28

This is my FAVE reylo art of his. It's.too.damn.cute. Mr. Ren!!! loll And the BB8 tea set is gold!!

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Post by Kessel on Thu 6 Jul - 4:20

@snufkin wrote:@Kessel - It's such an interesting contrast between Star Wars & Calvin and Hobbes because Watterson is steadfastly the opposite of Lucas. He only agreed to having books published and turned down the chance to do merchandising, which is where the $$$ is made. Also turned down Spielberg's request to do an animated movie of the strip. And when he reached a point where he felt that he'd have to compromise on quality with shrinking page margins for daily strips, he decided to wrap it up. There's something admirable about that, especially with Disney buying up so much of pop culture to keep churning out new products and theme parks.



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That's definitely admirable of him. As much as I love Calvin and Hobbes, I'm glad Watterson didn't do agree to do a animated movie. The Calvin and Hobbes comics always felt whimsical and special in way that would have likely been lost in a commercial animated movie, imo.
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Post by snufkin on Thu 6 Jul - 5:14

This is a compilation of interviews by a fan, but he has very strong opinions about 'selling out." Enough to keep making fun of Berke Breathed for merchandizing Bloom County and using it on things like buying power boats.

Like I said, his attitude is the antithesis of Lucasfilm/Disney




There's a more recent interview w/him from 2015. Which talking about his influences (Walt Kelly's pretty easy to spot, Ralph Steadman I can see too), reminds me that I need to get over the Charles Schultz Museum/Archives, which is driving distance from where I live.

Watterson paints the physical truths of such near-monastic commitment: He was in his mid-20s when the strip began, and in his mid-30s when he walked away. Were he to regularly return to the art board now in his 50s, he admits, he would be battling arthritis and back pain.

And speaking of that walking-away: Watterson dispels and clears up rumors that arose around his departure. Some have speculated that fights over licensing, or page space, or shifting newspaper realities, led to his retirement from the page in December of 1995. The cartoonist’s thoughts on leaving, and licensing, are more nuanced and less drama-driven than that.

“A comic strip, like anything else, has a natural life span,” says Watterson, like a man ever-cognizant of at what stage and state his strip was at.

“Art has to keep moving and discovering to stay alive,” adds the cartoonist, emphasizing that “the last few years of the strip, and especially the Sundays, are the work I am the most proud of. This was as close as I could get to my vision of what a comic strip should be.”

Watterson also weighs in on the crumbling of newspaper syndication as both business model and assurance of huge audience share. He offers thoughts on webcomics as both more democratic and less lucrative:

* On reading online comics vs. pre-curated newspaper comics: “I like comics more than most people, but I don’t want to personally scavenge for them.”

* On the expectation that online comics be free: “When we don’t pay for what we consume, we’re exploiting people’s talent and hard work.” (And related to that, let’s hope people and outlets don’t “pirate” this interview without paying; at least until the museum offers it someday for free. As Calvin himself might bellow: “Avast, you online pirates!”)
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Post by Darth Dingbat on Thu 6 Jul - 6:35

@SanghaRen wrote:
@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@vaderito wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:  

Says the guy who loves drawing Kylo drawing a heart that says, REY, I HATE YOU.  Laughing

Tom and Jerry to my knowledge never did that.  Wink
@IoJovi

Well, if his client wanted Valentine Kylo... Very Happy
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The Valentine's Kylo actually wasn't a commission. He's done many Reylo-ish Lil Kylo pieces that weren't commissions because Lil Kylo started out as a Calvin & Hobbes mash-up, after all - he sees Lil Kylo as Calvin and Rey as Susie.

Of course he doesn't know which way the story's headed, but I would hazard a guess the Calvin/Susie comparison wouldn't have occurred to him if he didn't see at least something of what we've seen.
@Darth Dingbat

Does he always say when it's commissioned? I guess he would out of courtesy to his customers. Yeah, the Calvin/Susie comparison is obvious. Even I, who barely know anything about Calvin & Hobbes, noticed it.

I still would not read anything into it personally. Most of you know my stance. It's again the case of everyone looking at something through different eyes. BK might indeed have Reyloish glasses on but until he comes out and say it, it's still everyone's guess. I enjoy the drawings and making jokes about it. For the rest we shall see in less than 6 months Very Happy
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I think he always tags his commissions as #commission, yes - and I've noticed that he also photographs the commissions on a table. His own Lil Kylo sketches are either scanned and digitally retouched, or else he draws them digitally to begin with. Either way, the end result is polished, like this:



He did a lot of Lil Kylo art after TFA, and they got popular, and the commissions started after that. The Valentine Kylo was one of the early ones (as was the one above).
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Post by vaderito on Thu 6 Jul - 10:15

Oh, wow! See what he did here. he is inspired by that artist a lot.
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Post by Piper Maru on Thu 6 Jul - 15:15

I love LilKylo I love you I'm a huge fan of Calvin & Hobbes, so it's a delight to see Brian's interpretation of the characters.
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Looking over the different pics in my files - yes, I have a folder with his lil'Kylo tweets -, he seems to indeed post his own sketches scanned straight instead of photographed on a table. And yes, he probably tags all the commissioned work. I wonder how many commissioned drawings he's made so far since he apparently does not post them all. But yeah, I enjoy them as they come. I have been off the analysis train for a while now Smile

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That's why PH is not happy with BK's drawings because he kind of sees it as a betrayal of Watterson's wishes - paraphrasing here, I don't remember his exact words. In principle, I would agree with PH. But then our society is saddly based on money so everyone is trying to make a living. And I don't know if when you are working for a coporate company, you can really comment on the fairness of adapting existing concepts and sell them - I work in a corporate company. It does not seem to bother Disney/Lucasfilm that BK is selling mashups. And I just like lil'Kylo so I am very biased.

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I cannot decide which is my favorite drawing. In general I really like the ones of lil'Kylo with Han. I think it's because I see it as a good representation of father-son conflictual relationships, which are imo quite widespread. The one that really had my heart melt is one of the first ones I ever saw with Leia kissing the Vader doll. I mean, it was so unexpected for me to see Kylo being shown as a kid when on some social media people were hissing every time Kylo's possible redemption was mentioned. You can see Kylo's PJ sleeve - how cute is that! And Leia looking away while kissing the doll is gold. Especially if you have read Bloodline. I also really like the one where he's looking into Leia's cupboard because I just love that scene of metal-bikini-clad Leia getting rid of Jabba. There's so many good ones of lil'Kylo with Han and/or Leia.



Reylo ones, I don't know. I guess the traitor one because that could describe the end of TFA, each one probably thinking the other is a traitor. And the one where they draw each other. But yeah, the Valentine one is really cool too. I could imagine Grown Up Kylo repeating "I hate her" after getting his a** kicked both by her and then probably by Snoke as a result.



Sorry for the lil'Kylo festival Very Happy
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