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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ladyconsular on Wed 19 Jul - 15:25

Catching up on this thread, I also think DJ might be a Lando-type character.

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by IoJovi on Wed 19 Jul - 15:28

@ladyconsular wrote:Adam did say he saw Carrie as Leia  the last time he ever saw her.

Haha @EchoBase and I had the same thought!
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Wouldn't it be a nice inversion of what happened in TFA? Rey ended up in FO custody per Kylo in that movie. It'd great to have that same scenario in reverse where Kylo ends up in Resistance custody (either because she took him, or due to his own free will) because of Rey.

Now I have an image of Rey bridal carrying Kylo to the Falcon. He's not passed out, but he's wide awake and loving every second of it...

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ladyconsular on Wed 19 Jul - 15:31

@IoJovi wrote:
@ladyconsular wrote:Adam did say he saw Carrie as Leia  the last time he ever saw her.

Haha @EchoBase and I had the same thought!
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Wouldn't it be a nice inversion of what happened in TFA? Rey ended up in FO custody per Kylo in that movie. It'd great to have that same scenario in reverse where Kylo ends up in Resistance custody (either because she took him, or due to his own free will) because of Rey.

Now I have an image of Rey bridal carrying Kylo to the Falcon. He's not passed out, but he's wide awake and loving every second of it...
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LOL that would be pretty cute!

I do wonder how Kylo can switch sides without being locked up though. If he is with them in that scene, he's roaming the base freely.

Maybe after he gives them info, he gets locked up, then things happen and Luke releases him because Rey and the others are in trouble and they need his help. Sort of like Finn helping them with Starkiller.

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ReyofLightSide on Wed 19 Jul - 15:32

Someone on tumblr also compares the Praetorian Guard weapons to the BTS fight training for Daisy and Adam. Photobucket isn't working but it is a shot comparing the Guards on top of the pinball machines to the weapons being used in the fight training. There is a matching staff and other big knife thingy.

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ladyconsular on Wed 19 Jul - 15:34

I might sound crazy, but the idea of seeing them fight together makes me even more giddy than a full blown romance scene lol

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ReyofLightSide on Wed 19 Jul - 15:38

@ladyconsular wrote:I might sound crazy, but the idea of seeing them fight together makes me even more giddy than a full blown romance scene lol
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And if they are fighting the Guards, they are getting to Snoke. Maybe Snoke is killed and then there is a twist- does he inhabit someone else? Or who is the Bigger Bad?
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ReyofLightSide on Wed 19 Jul - 15:38

argh double post
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ladyconsular on Wed 19 Jul - 15:41

Hmmm... here's a wild thought. Rey gets taken to Snoke at the end of the movie. Kylo returns all done up in cape and mask, pretends to listen to Snoke, turns on him, frees Rey and they try and fight their way out. The destroyed mask scene could happen then too. Kylo finally turning away from Snoke.

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by Darth Dingbat on Wed 19 Jul - 15:41

@ladyconsular wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:
@ladyconsular wrote:Adam did say he saw Carrie as Leia  the last time he ever saw her.

Haha @EchoBase and I had the same thought!
@ladyconsular

Wouldn't it be a nice inversion of what happened in TFA? Rey ended up in FO custody per Kylo in that movie. It'd great to have that same scenario in reverse where Kylo ends up in Resistance custody (either because she took him, or due to his own free will) because of Rey.

Now I have an image of Rey bridal carrying Kylo to the Falcon. He's not passed out, but he's wide awake and loving every second of it...
@IoJovi

LOL that would be pretty cute!

I do wonder how Kylo can switch sides without being locked up though. If he is with them in that scene, he's roaming the base freely.

Maybe after he gives them info, he gets locked up, then things happen and Luke releases him because Rey and the others are in trouble and they need his help. Sort of like Finn helping them with Starkiller.
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Well, in a battle situation or other chaos, I'm pretty sure no one would try to restrain a Force-sensitive who easily go full Vader on them... especially if said Force-sensitive is helping them. I don't think that's a plot problem at all.

If Kylo does end up with the Resistance, I can't imagine the how and the why of the plot, but I'm sure the circumstances would be extraordinary to begin with.
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ladyconsular on Wed 19 Jul - 15:43

@Darth Dingbat wrote:
@ladyconsular wrote:
@IoJovi wrote:
@ladyconsular wrote:Adam did say he saw Carrie as Leia  the last time he ever saw her.

Haha @EchoBase and I had the same thought!
@ladyconsular

Wouldn't it be a nice inversion of what happened in TFA? Rey ended up in FO custody per Kylo in that movie. It'd great to have that same scenario in reverse where Kylo ends up in Resistance custody (either because she took him, or due to his own free will) because of Rey.

Now I have an image of Rey bridal carrying Kylo to the Falcon. He's not passed out, but he's wide awake and loving every second of it...
@IoJovi

LOL that would be pretty cute!

I do wonder how Kylo can switch sides without being locked up though. If he is with them in that scene, he's roaming the base freely.

Maybe after he gives them info, he gets locked up, then things happen and Luke releases him because Rey and the others are in trouble and they need his help. Sort of like Finn helping them with Starkiller.
@ladyconsular

Well, in a battle situation or other chaos, I'm pretty sure no one would try to restrain a Force-sensitive who easily go full Vader on them... especially if said Force-sensitive is helping them. I don't think that's a plot problem at all.

If Kylo does end up with the Resistance, I can't imagine the how and the why of the plot, but I'm sure the circumstances would be extraordinary to begin with.
@Darth Dingbat

That plays into the theme Mark and Daisy hinted at in interviews.

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ReyofLightSide on Wed 19 Jul - 16:07

I can't wait to see how closely we guessed these things in December.
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by Tex on Wed 19 Jul - 16:11

@ReyofLightSide wrote:I can't wait to see how closely we guessed these things in December.
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It's time to start making TLJ bingo cards filled with our various predictions. Wink
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ladyconsular on Wed 19 Jul - 16:13

I just watched the BTS again and it is Carrie and Adam together.


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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ReyofLightSide on Wed 19 Jul - 16:31

@ladyconsular wrote:I just watched the BTS again and it is Carrie and Adam together.

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Wonder if it is an indoor scene or a soundstage made to look like the outside (Crait)?
I wonder if this was the "can't believe they showed that" Daisy meant?
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The fight training
Kylo turning and looking
Something to do with the water

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ladyconsular on Wed 19 Jul - 16:40

This also confirms Kylo is not dying or badly hurt or anything when Rey talks to Leia, and we see Leia look over her shoulder really quickly as the scene fades, and she looks speechless.

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by vaderito on Wed 19 Jul - 16:42

Sharper images of the woman with Adam:



make up does look like Leia's



as does a tiny glimpse of grey hair:



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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ladyconsular on Wed 19 Jul - 16:45

@vaderito excellent! Thanks for this! I can see her hairstyle better. That is no doubt Carrie. Height-wise too.

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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by vaderito on Wed 19 Jul - 16:46

@ladyconsular wrote:@vaderito excellent! Thanks for this! I can see her hairstyle better. That is no doubt Carrie. Height-wise too.
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height-wise, everyone is Carrie compared to Adam. lol!
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by EchoBase on Wed 19 Jul - 16:47



I know that some assumed that the collar on the left belongs to Poe's jacket. But could it be Leia's as well?
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ladyconsular on Wed 19 Jul - 16:47

@vaderito wrote:
@ladyconsular wrote:@vaderito excellent! Thanks for this! I can see her hairstyle better. That is no doubt Carrie. Height-wise too.
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height-wise, everyone is Carrie compared to Adam. lol!
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Well she was around my height in real life, so I can't argue there. I came up to Adam's abs and was slightly taller than her when we met.

@EchoBase could be! They both have pretty poofy hair in this movie! First time I saw that scene, Kylo did not look like Kylo, so I felt something wasn't right. Now I think we guessed it. He's with the good guys.


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Post by ReyofLightSide on Wed 19 Jul - 16:50

@EchoBase wrote:

I know that some assumed that the collar on the left belongs to Poe's jacket. But could it be Leia's as well?
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The wall color looks the same in both. Granted, most of the sets could just be gray but they look alike.
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by EchoBase on Wed 19 Jul - 16:53

@ReyofLightSide wrote:
@EchoBase wrote:

I know that some assumed that the collar on the left belongs to Poe's jacket. But could it be Leia's as well?
@EchoBase

The wall color looks the same in both. Granted, most of the sets could just be gray but they look alike.
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The light somehow shines on the collar just like in this picture:



Visual storytelling right? Look at the light on Kylo's face. In TFA it seemed like there was always light behind Leia in every scene she appeared.


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Post by vaderito on Wed 19 Jul - 16:56

That image is hard to gauge where he is, but the one with Rian shows that the set is not FO. This is FO:

Spoiler:

As you can see, dark grey, black, red sharper edges

This is the Resistance:

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As you can see, white, light grey, round edges.

This image shows a set that is much like the Resistance and nothing like FO:



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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by ReyofLightSide on Wed 19 Jul - 16:56

@EchoBase wrote:
@ReyofLightSide wrote:
@EchoBase wrote:

I know that some assumed that the collar on the left belongs to Poe's jacket. But could it be Leia's as well?
@EchoBase

The wall color looks the same in both. Granted, most of the sets could just be gray but they look alike.
@ReyofLightSide


The light somehow shines on the collar just like in this picture:

@EchoBase

She may be getting some special Carrie Fisher lighting Smile
So Kylo possibly in the room with his mama, looking all hurt, vulnerable and puppy like?
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Re: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors

Post by snufkin on Wed 19 Jul - 16:58

So Carrie's in that shot and it's both of them in their "present day" costumes, not a flashback of when Leia sent him off to Ben? As either a PoV for Leia about the moment when she lost her son or for Ben the moment when he felt cast out by his parents? If that's the case and it's what RJ was referring to by glad they went that route, what a relief. More for the filmmakers I'd say that us viewers, to have that moment already in the story, for both Carrie and Leia's sakes.
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