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Post by SkyStar on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:00 am

Hux totally will be pissed. He is too ambitious and probably was waiting to kill Snoke himself and then become the leader. And even with that Kylo manages to do that first. Dunno how they can coexist at all.


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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by Ynqve on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:01 am

@RosiePancake wrote:
@Ynqve wrote:
@panki wrote:
@Ynqve wrote:
@special_cases wrote:
Not only Kylo, Rey is unworthy unless she is a Skywalker. It shows you they care more about OT characters than they do about the new characters. It has to follow a certain pattern, if not, then it's a garbage. Fans needs to be more open-minded about different stories and characters. They call it destruction of SW lore, edgy and Rian's own fiction. When Adam said that Rian hopes fans can understand ambiguity and nuance, I knew some people will get angry at him.

@DarthRen

Their behaviour is completely ridiculous, just total nonsense. I didn't expect it, such close-mindedness is simply idiotic. They are perfectly aware that there were different options for Rey - and now they are crying like somebody really lied to them!

ManaByte even tweeted: "#TheLastJedi has, I believe, a very important message for Star Wars fandom and the gatekeeping that’s polluting it."

Unexpected, but wise.
@special_cases

To be fair, I can understand where they're coming from. The OT characters went through a lot to stop the empire and the old EU provided them with much happier endings. Luke had Mara Jade and his family and rebuilt the Jedi order. Han and Leia may have lost both their sons but their marriage was much happier and the new republic was way less dysfunctional than the canon version.

With that said: I'm glad they decided to rewrite the new canon and the fanboys should accept that maybe the Legends version was a bit too naive and optimistic. The new canon feels more realistic imo. And nothing justifies the vitriol that these so called fans display towards Rian, KK and LF.
@Ynqve

I have to admit I feel for the antis to some extent since I grew up loving the OT...but they shouldn't act in such an uncouth manner.

A good way to see it through their eyes would be this- imagine that Reylo happens and they get married and have kids (and all of us on the forum laugh and celebrate it)....but in 10 years from now, LF releases a sequel where Rey and Kylo were never really happy together, Kylo is aimless and roaming the galaxy taking up dubious assignments and finally their child kills him. I doubt any of us would feel comfortable with it either.

Many of these are people who waited from the 80's to see the OT3 return so I completely get the sadness. What is unacceptable if how they express their feelings by threatening people....its just a movie at the end of the day.
@panki

Exactly. I love the OT3 and the way that TFA rewrote Han and Leia's relationship made me so sad. I'm hoping that they somehow find a way to keep Leia alive but out of IX so that she can have her Reylo grandkids. She deserves some happiness after everything that's happened to her.
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I remember that Bloodlines novel and Comic already gave a hint of Reylo's daughter.
@RosiePancake

Yes. They've made it really clear that Leia wants grandchildren. She wanted them since the moment Ben was born. And she deserves it, at this point her story is so utterly tragic. Everything and everyone she's fought for is gone. She has lost her parents, planet, friends, husband, brother, the new republic, probably the Resistance and she seems to believe that her son is as good as dead as well. It's heartbreaking.
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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by DarthRen on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:03 am

@RosiePancake wrote:
@Ynqve wrote:
@panki wrote:
@Ynqve wrote:
@special_cases wrote:
Not only Kylo, Rey is unworthy unless she is a Skywalker. It shows you they care more about OT characters than they do about the new characters. It has to follow a certain pattern, if not, then it's a garbage. Fans needs to be more open-minded about different stories and characters. They call it destruction of SW lore, edgy and Rian's own fiction. When Adam said that Rian hopes fans can understand ambiguity and nuance, I knew some people will get angry at him.

@DarthRen

Their behaviour is completely ridiculous, just total nonsense. I didn't expect it, such close-mindedness is simply idiotic. They are perfectly aware that there were different options for Rey - and now they are crying like somebody really lied to them!

ManaByte even tweeted: "#TheLastJedi has, I believe, a very important message for Star Wars fandom and the gatekeeping that’s polluting it."

Unexpected, but wise.
@special_cases

To be fair, I can understand where they're coming from. The OT characters went through a lot to stop the empire and the old EU provided them with much happier endings. Luke had Mara Jade and his family and rebuilt the Jedi order. Han and Leia may have lost both their sons but their marriage was much happier and the new republic was way less dysfunctional than the canon version.

With that said: I'm glad they decided to rewrite the new canon and the fanboys should accept that maybe the Legends version was a bit too naive and optimistic. The new canon feels more realistic imo. And nothing justifies the vitriol that these so called fans display towards Rian, KK and LF.
@Ynqve

I have to admit I feel for the antis to some extent since I grew up loving the OT...but they shouldn't act in such an uncouth manner.

A good way to see it through their eyes would be this- imagine that Reylo happens and they get married and have kids (and all of us on the forum laugh and celebrate it)....but in 10 years from now, LF releases a sequel where Rey and Kylo were never really happy together, Kylo is aimless and roaming the galaxy taking up dubious assignments and finally their child kills him. I doubt any of us would feel comfortable with it either.

Many of these are people who waited from the 80's to see the OT3 return so I completely get the sadness. What is unacceptable if how they express their feelings by threatening people....its just a movie at the end of the day.
@panki

Exactly. I love the OT3 and the way that TFA rewrote Han and Leia's relationship made me so sad. I'm hoping that they somehow find a way to keep Leia alive but out of IX so that she can have her Reylo grandkids. She deserves some happiness after everything that's happened to her.
@Ynqve


I remember that Bloodlines novel and Comic already gave a hint of Reylo's daughter.
@RosiePancake

That was more of a wish and Leia's fate is questionable. She is alive but won't be in the next episode. Quite a dilemma.

Personally, kids are at this point debatable. Rey seems like will be a Jedi, depends on if she follows Luke's code, presumably he'll be teaching her in Episode IX.
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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by Piper Maru on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:08 am

Ever since I've read the spoilers, my musical taste became trash and I'm listening these 3 songs on repeat and thinking about Rey and Kylo:





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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by Saracene on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:12 am

If Rey ends TLJ being angry with Kylo, I predict right now that, at some point in Episode IX, there'll be a "lady doth protest too much" moment from Rey that someone else in the Resistance will notice.
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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by DarthRen on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:22 am

@Meomeo wrote:I hope Luke will appear in Episode IX as the powerful force ghost and teach the new generation of Jedi. Seriously at this point a Reylo kid is out of my imagination. I only see tragedy from here. I just hope they don’t shove a new love interest for Rey into our face. Like Poe is a good character but NOPE please.
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It's Kylo or nobody since Rey could be a dedicated Jedi like Luke. Poe option is imo not viable option. It would be like romance for the sake of romance.
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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by Cowgirlsamurai on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:26 am

I want to know if Adam plays young Ben in the flashbacks or if it’s a kid? Anyone said?
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Post by Ynqve on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:36 am

@Cowgirlsamurai wrote:I want to know if Adam plays young Ben in the flashbacks or if it’s a kid? Anyone said?
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One would think so since the timeline established by Bloodline says that he turned in his early/mid 20s.
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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by special_cases on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:39 am


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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by SkyStar on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:51 am

@special_cases

Haha fun review, I am loving that the person thinks Kylo and Rey make a good couple and lol that scene with Kylo firing at Luke, now that will be something, I am imagining Kylo loosing his sith. Very Happy


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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by DarthRen on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:53 am

@special_cases

This is hilarious. Laughing

Throughout the movie, he’s dealing with so much internal conflict that I’m beginning to feel like this is a premise of rom-com movie where Kylo is at crossroads choosing someone he wants to spend his whole life with. wrote:

The guy who’s famous with the line “it’s a trap” makes a brief appearance, sadly. The only reason I recognised Admiral Ackbar is because of all those memes, to be honest. wrote:

At this point, the audience claps and cheers in excitement again because Luke looks very bada**. General Hux on the other hand looks very annoyed at the emotionally unstable Kylo Ren who is distracted from their main goal. Honestly, I was annoyed at Kylo too, at this point. It's highly visible that he needs to consult a psyciathrist to talk about his daddy issues. wrote:
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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by Ynqve on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 6:59 am

So according to that review I guess we can throw the whole "Reylo is going to be too subtle for the GA" thing out the window? Good!
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Post by Blackcanary on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:03 am

@Ynqve wrote:So according to that review I guess we can throw the whole "Reylo is going to be too subtle for the GA" thing out the window? Good!
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They seemed to be shipping it a bit!

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Post by Night Huntress on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:08 am

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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by Cowgirlsamurai on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:09 am

@Ynqve wrote:
@Cowgirlsamurai wrote:I want to know if Adam plays young Ben in the flashbacks or if it’s a kid? Anyone said?
@Cowgirlsamurai

One would think so since the timeline established by Bloodline says that he turned in his early/mid 20s.
@Ynqve

I wasn’t sure if they thought Adam could play himself even younger or if they actually got a similar looking (if such a person exists! Laughing) 20 year old to stand in for flashbacks.
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Post by Birdwoman on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:09 am

So is Like really dead or maybe dead?

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Post by special_cases on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:10 am

I want to read more reviews where hints are obvious. I read rather very uncreative review where "Emo Kylo" is a "bad" part of TlJ. Evil or Very Mad

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Post by DarthRen on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:12 am

@Birdwoman wrote:So is Like really dead or maybe dead?
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What do you mean? Luke? Snoke? One is entirely dead cut in-half and the other become even more powerful Jedi.


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Post by Piper Maru on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:14 am

@Birdwoman wrote:So is Like really dead or maybe dead?
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It's more like he ascended to a higher plane of existence.
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Post by special_cases on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:22 am

God, I love that so many fanboys are talking about Adam's perfomance. Makes me so happy.

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Post by DarthRen on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:29 am

I can now understand why Mark had disagreements with Rian Johnson. Luke attempting or even thinking about killing Ben in his sleep is messed up, very weird choice given how much Luke believed in Anakin being still alive.

I have to see to really judge it, but this will upset many people no matter where they stand in terms of Reylo or Rey's parentage. Luke's projection will be fine, it sounds truly beautiful but that part is really going to be debated heavily post-TLJ.
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Re: Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Post by Kylo Rey on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:36 am





All aboard the Kylo bandwagon!!

I legitimately gasped when I saw this one. Really impressive, considering David Ehrlich is a very harsh critic and didn't like TFA:

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THE LAST JEDI is f****ing phenomenal. I didn't even think I *could* like a Star Wars movie that much.
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