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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Rimfaxe96 on Fri 9 Sep - 11:46

@Maria Antonietta wrote:And first thing he does is screaming "rey, rey!!!" lol!
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Followed by "oh fck it's ren" before running off
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Maria Antonietta on Fri 9 Sep - 11:51

@Rimfaxe96 wrote:
@Maria Antonietta wrote:And first thing he does is screaming "rey, rey!!!" lol!
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Followed by "oh fck it's ren" before running off
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But Ren wants just a kiss Sad
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Rimfaxe96 on Fri 9 Sep - 11:55

@Maria Antonietta wrote:But Ren wants just a kiss Sad
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From Finn? Doubtful, more like use him as chewing toy or punching bag Laughing
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by panki on Fri 9 Sep - 12:23

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Finn's Story by Jesse J Holland comes out Sept 13 this month! Is this the rumored Finn story that MSW was talking about? I don't know. This is TFA from Finn's perspective, though, just like Rey's story. I'm excited to get into Finn's head in this book.
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Something just struck me- what if they depict Finn having no romantic interest in Rey in the book, and maybe just seeing her as family? This would be a good way of gently letting down finnreys before episode 8.

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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by vaderito on Fri 9 Sep - 13:10

Just saw this

http://starwarsnonsense.tumblr.com/

Anonymous asked:
idk if u take "meta requests" for ur wordpress but you've mentioned before abt maz being a lady of the lake and how this relates to rey but not finn (i saw a meta by luminousfinn on this but its v short) so basically they said there are 2 King arthurs in tfa: rey has the excalibur moment and finn is handed the sword after being tested by the lady of the lake. how does this relates to kylo and luke?

LMAO! Jedi!Finnsters always conveniently forget that Maz gave him the saber to "take it to your friend". It wasn't given to him as in Chosen One/Hero/King Arthur/Whatever but as a courier. Rey is the main protagonist/hero(ine) so enough of this sexist sith already.

@jakkusun No, MSW was talking about books set in VIII timeline.

Ha,ha, by bye Jedi!Finn:



See Obi Wan's words to rey:

"the dark Side...the Jedi...you will do it ALONE." Yep, Rey alone. No Finn. Keep writing meats that basically apply Rey's subtext and journey to this subtext-free character. He'll have his separate journey.
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by soulluos on Mon 12 Sep - 16:26

https://anhamirak.tumblr.com/post/150310392728/finn-is-force-sensitive-as-per-finns-story

At this stage, some Finn fans are just desperate for him to be fs despite what's actually stated in the novel: 'imagined', 'sounds from the castle', etc.

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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by BastilaBey on Mon 12 Sep - 16:41

@vaderito Is meta requesting an actual thing people do? Surely if you want a meta written, you do it yourself?

I still don't really understand why the force sensitivity thing has become such a big issue with Finn, we just have to wait and see how the story goes. Even if he is force sensitive, he's clearly being positioned as the protagonist of the resistance/action side of the plot, while Rey has the dark/light conflict. That's very clear from how things unfolded in TFA.
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Maria Antonietta on Mon 12 Sep - 16:46

@soulluos wrote:https://anhamirak.tumblr.com/post/150310392728/finn-is-force-sensitive-as-per-finns-story

At this stage, some Finn fans are just desperate for him to be fs despite what's actually stated in the novel: 'imagined', 'sounds from the castle', etc.
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they didn't get the memo: finn is just a stormtrooper and doesn't know what's going on
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by vaderito on Mon 12 Sep - 16:47

@BastilaBey wrote:@vaderito Is meta requesting an actual thing people do? Surely if you want a meta written, you do it yourself?

I still don't really understand why the force sensitivity thing has become such a big issue with Finn, we just have to wait and see how the story goes. Even if he is force sensitive, he's clearly being positioned as the protagonist of the resistance/action side of the plot, while Rey has the dark/light conflict. That's very clear from how things unfolded in TFA.
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yes, they ask Reylos with Tumblr to write Finn metas.

I don't give a crap whether he's FS cause that's not what his story is about. Also, Force Bond with Rey won't jump from Kylo to him but what if he and Kylo develop a Force Bond? Laughing Finnlo! cheers
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by FrolickingFizzgig on Mon 12 Sep - 16:50

@soulluos wrote:https://anhamirak.tumblr.com/post/150310392728/finn-is-force-sensitive-as-per-finns-story

At this stage, some Finn fans are just desperate for him to be fs despite what's actually stated in the novel: 'imagined', 'sounds from the castle', etc.
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It's also amazing how the way people advertise themselves on sites like Tumblr tells you all you need to know and then some.



I just don't see what's so wrong with Finn having his own story. Even his biggest fans don't seem interested in what only Finn the rogue stormtrooper can bring. All they want is Finn the Jedi. Why "Jedi" or "Force Sensitivity" have become the pillars of narrative/character relevance is beyond me. I'm pretty sure Han was the most popular character from the OT.
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Maria Antonietta on Mon 12 Sep - 16:55

@FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
@soulluos wrote:https://anhamirak.tumblr.com/post/150310392728/finn-is-force-sensitive-as-per-finns-story

At this stage, some Finn fans are just desperate for him to be fs despite what's actually stated in the novel: 'imagined', 'sounds from the castle', etc.
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It's also amazing how the way people advertise themselves on sites like Tumblr tells you all you need to know and then some.



I just don't see what's so wrong with Finn having his own story. Even his biggest fans don't seem interested in what only Finn the rogue stormtrooper can bring. All they want is Finn the Jedi. Why "Jedi" or "Force Sensitivity" have become the pillars of narrative/character relevance is beyond me. I'm pretty sure Han was the most popular character from the OT.
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Because SOCIAL JUSTICE AND YOU'RE RACIST!!!!

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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by vaderito on Mon 12 Sep - 16:59

From Finn book:



Like Pablo and Matt said, screams came from the castle.
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by BastilaBey on Mon 12 Sep - 17:00

@vaderito wrote:
@BastilaBey wrote:@vaderito Is meta requesting an actual thing people do? Surely if you want a meta written, you do it yourself?

I still don't really understand why the force sensitivity thing has become such a big issue with Finn, we just have to wait and see how the story goes. Even if he is force sensitive, he's clearly being positioned as the protagonist of the resistance/action side of the plot, while Rey has the dark/light conflict. That's very clear from how things unfolded in TFA.
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yes, they ask Reylos with Tumblr to write Finn metas.

I don't give a crap whether he's FS cause that's not what his story is about. Also, Force Bond with Rey won't jump from Kylo to him but what if he and Kylo develop a Force Bond? Laughing Finnlo! cheers
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Well this is a great essay written about Finn by a dirty 'reylo'. https://narrativeninja.tumblr.com/post/149654649007/three-destinies-intertwined-and-why-more

I don't see why what someone ships should affect their understanding of the overall narrative, fandom is strange. And I've said before finnlo makes more sense to me than kylux. Their dynamic really is very interesting.
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by vaderito on Mon 12 Sep - 17:11

@BastilaBey wrote:
Well this is a great essay written about Finn by a dirty 'reylo'. https://narrativeninja.tumblr.com/post/149654649007/three-destinies-intertwined-and-why-more

I don't see why what someone ships should affect their understanding of the overall narrative, fandom is strange. And I've said before finnlo makes more sense to me than kylux. Their dynamic really is very interesting.
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Twisted Evil I'm here for some canon Finnlo. I think they'll team up in IX and new ship will explode.

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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Mana on Mon 12 Sep - 17:15

@soulluos wrote:https://anhamirak.tumblr.com/post/150310392728/finn-is-force-sensitive-as-per-finns-story

At this stage, some Finn fans are just desperate for him to be fs despite what's actually stated in the novel: 'imagined', 'sounds from the castle', etc.
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LOL nothing in those passages reveal anything about Finn's force sensitivity IMO......reaching at its finest
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by BenRey on Mon 12 Sep - 17:22

@vaderito wrote:
@BastilaBey wrote:  
Well this is a great essay written about Finn by a dirty 'reylo'. https://narrativeninja.tumblr.com/post/149654649007/three-destinies-intertwined-and-why-more

I don't see why what someone ships should affect their understanding of the overall narrative, fandom is strange. And I've said before finnlo makes more sense to me than kylux. Their dynamic really is very interesting.
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Twisted Evil I'm here for some canon Finnlo. I think they'll team up in IX and new ship will explode.

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I just started shipping it. The What Happens on Vega fic is my jam.  Very Happy
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Kessel on Mon 12 Sep - 17:30

@Mana wrote:
@soulluos wrote:https://anhamirak.tumblr.com/post/150310392728/finn-is-force-sensitive-as-per-finns-story

At this stage, some Finn fans are just desperate for him to be fs despite what's actually stated in the novel: 'imagined', 'sounds from the castle', etc.
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LOL nothing in those passages reveal anything about Finn's force sensitivity IMO......reaching at its finest
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Yeah, I also read those novel passages and I really don't see any revelations in them that = Finn is Force sensitive, like Rey.  

Like @BastilaBey said, I think even if Finn learns to utilize the Force in an "inclusive way" at some point, the Force conflict is not the main part of his arc, he's the protagonist of the resistance plot of the story. The light and dark Force/Jedi story is Rey's story.
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by vaderito on Mon 12 Sep - 17:38

@BenRey wrote:  

I just started shipping it. The What Happens on Vega fic is my jam.  Very Happy
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Excellent title cause there's a star named Vega:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vega

maybe it's a Casino Star?  Very Happy
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by Mana on Mon 12 Sep - 22:46

I think it's sad that some people don't love Finn for the character that he is but who they think he should be... :'(
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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by jakkusun on Tue 13 Sep - 21:06



http://variety.com/2016/film/news/jason-mitchell-kathryn-bigelow-detroit-riots-movie-1201856262/

So John just wrapped on Bigelow's movie about the Detroit Riots.

John has been so busy, with Pacific Rim, Watership Down, this, and all the awards and everything! I'm so excited for him!

I love what he said about Watership Down xD the animated movie gave me nightmares as a kid too!



I love this picture of him checking on Pacific Rim.


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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by ISeeAnIsland on Tue 13 Sep - 21:40

@jakkusun wrote:
I love this picture of him checking on Pacific Rim.


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I love that he appears to be wearing his Space Bear baseball cap in that shot. WinksD

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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by jakkusun on Tue 13 Sep - 21:45

@ISeeAnIsland !! Wow, good eye!


Space Bear is everywhere and it is probably the greatest thing about waiting for VIII.
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Post by ISeeAnIsland on Tue 13 Sep - 21:49

@jakkusun wrote:@ISeeAnIsland !! Wow, good eye!


Space Bear is everywhere and it is probably the greatest thing about waiting for VIII.
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I love that KMT was also wearing that hat in that Instagram pic that one of her friends posted from when she was out hiking with her friends.

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Post by jakkusun on Wed 14 Sep - 19:33

@BastilaBey Smile Thanks for suggesting I put my post here! And very interesting detail about Daisy saying Finn might be FS or something cause he used a lightsaber. Finn would be the best way to connect the force to the everyman, I think, since he already seemed to believe anyone could use it to some degree (when he told Han "we'll use the force!" And Han said "that's not how the force works!" --maybe Finn will learn how it can work for him).

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It definitely seems shooting/gunning is Finn's main strength, currently. But, I actually wonder if he might use a saber again, as a non-jedi. Because you don't have to be a jedi to use a saber. (Cad Bane really held his own against Quinlin Vos and Obi-Wan in The Clone Wars and Bane was just a bounty hunter)

Finn lost both of his saber battles, so it would make sense if he evolved and improved and actually won a battle like that. In the Before the Awakening short stories, all the troopers battled with energy batons for practice. Finn was actually one of the best. That was why he could do what he did with the saber. (Kind of like how Rey's staff probably helped her when she wielded a saber--though it obviously wasn't enough until she tapped into the force, which is why Finn couldn't win against Kylo--no tapping into the Force like Rey).



But I think Finn could possibly use a saber or maybe pick up one of the baton weapons and fight a stormtrooper or maybe Phasma that way in the future. (oh gosh a Finn and Phasma fight with energy batons would be epic!!). I think the major reason Finn didn't win against Nines wasn't that Finn was incompetent, but that he was lacking a drive/purpose. Finn hadn't really found what he was "fighting for" yet ("I've got nothing to fight for", etc.), I think. And Nines was driven by his fury and hurt over Finn's betrayal, so of course he won.

I actually think Finn needs to revisit these failures as he evolves in the next two movies. Maybe he'll never pick up a lightsaber again, but the hand-to-hand combat and energy baton battles are so exciting, that I think it would be disappointing to leave them out of the resistance plot after it was introduced in TFA so successfully (everyone loved the Traitor trooper xD).


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Re: Discussion: Finn/FN-2187/John Boyega

Post by BastilaBey on Wed 14 Sep - 19:40

Finn is seriously going to kick butt in VIII. And I'm super excited to see if they have any action sequences with him and KMT's character, because apparently her stunt double is incredible!

I heard that the traitor trooper part was initially supposed to be Finn going up against Phasma, which makes me wonder if they've decided to save that for a later showdown and build up Phasma's anger over Finn defecting. Unfortunately she was under-utilized in TFA, but hopefully that could easily change with a couple of amazingly choreographed scenes.
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